So many guys quit.. Im grateful to all those that haven't

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Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:26 pm



Day 71, the grind continues

DIscovering I Was An Extrovert Then Dealing with That in Covid

- had a lot of anxiety holding me back in my teens but always wanted a lot of friends
- got good at meeting people travelling alone
- learned i love big events, raves, clubs, festivals - the crazy adventures that come from that
- moved into a party house
- covid hit as i was getting a bit sick of non stop partying
- had to relearn coping with isolation
- currently just focused on building myself, enjoying time with family and ignoring my extroverted drives that hate covid restrictions
- also walking meditation helps
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Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:28 pm

Seems a better time than any to put this one up given Andy is celebrating his new life in Brisbane



The ability to fucking move is a skill some of you need
I hesitated on actually switching my location up back in the day too, I know how hard it is
It gets incredibly easy to do once youve done it once or twice

See a ton of resistance to this piece of advice from guys who would pretty much solve all their issues if they did take the jump
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Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:54 pm

I would add going on trips small or longer close or far away helps for this too.
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Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:14 pm

Hell yeah dude
Go fucking travel boys
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Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:51 pm



Had a look over all the avenues you can get laid
The only required 'skill' to getting started and having success is the ability to be honest with girls about your intentions
Whether its social circle, online or cold approach

No indirect, simping pussy shit around here lads

I consider this the hardest to do in social circle (the most anxiety blocking you i think)
The next hardest is daytime cold approach
I think most guys have managed to try night approaching and be direct
Online its already kind of implied but you need to get to the point and be honest in the conversation (tell her she is sexy/cute and actually pitch dates)


* i filmed this in shit lighting. The next few are better quality
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Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:17 am

there is a huge misunderstanding of what indirect gaming is

1. It is not pussy shit ,it is social grace! I can tell a girl hey I like you and she has to make an assessment based on your look right then and there

2. You tell her shes hot but you do it after you get positive signals and it is more successful to tell her you like her or to kiss her or to fuck her etc

3, The skills from indirect work well in other settings not just seduction ones, you meet her and fuck her cool, she brings around
her friends and her family, you much more interest than a person who smalls talks .

4. Your options expand greatly like 95 percent of all sets in night game are group sets , you are not limited to the very very rare solo set .
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Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:33 am

@grodmeister general how much have you gotten laid?
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Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:59 am

grodmeister general wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:17 am
there is a huge misunderstanding of what indirect gaming is

1. It is not pussy shit ,it is social grace! I can tell a girl hey I like you and she has to make an assessment based on your look right then and there

2. You tell her shes hot but you do it after you get positive signals and it is more successful to tell her you like her or to kiss her or to fuck her etc

3, The skills from indirect work well in other settings not just seduction ones, you meet her and fuck her cool, she brings around
her friends and her family, you much more interest than a person who smalls talks .

4. Your options expand greatly like 95 percent of all sets in night game are group sets , you are not limited to the very very rare solo set .
We aren't really a 'game' forum tbh dude

If thats what you want to do mate go for it

But none of that is actually necessary for getting started and having success

Someone being completely indirect and never showing his intentions is going to flounder for ages before getting any
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Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:21 pm

Also indirect simping really refers to trying to get girls by weaselling in and being their friends first

I doubt when you do night approaches that you dont make it obvious what you are after
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Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:59 pm

It does work,after 268 approaches(tracked) I got consistent success

You do show intent but LATER when its safe indirect is not being celibate ,you do not understand it

Yes its possible to hide interest with false disqaulifers ,in fact the girl brings it up later (I thought you didn't like me cuz xyz) but in qualify stage you remedy the false disqaulifer

look I did not argue about photos for online game,you guys have experience, I have the experience with indirect group sets at night ,you guys there should be no argument from y'all!
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Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:05 pm

@SIGMA_1234

overall 26 , I started my first lay at 24 was in 2 different relationships for 7 years (1 for 5 years another for 2) went on a rampage then pre pandemic I dated a girl in November til jan , sexed a girl the week we broke up and met another girl and was in a relationship til august , I am not a rack up the lays kinda dude, but I am a successful at night game and groups kinda dude!

how much have you gotten laid, or makeouts or any group closes! or night game closes etc.
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Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:08 pm

same questions to @Radical whats your night game experience, or group set experience, maybe your direct stuff works better than what I've been doing!
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Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:26 pm

You havent understood what I mean by simping dude

I'm talking guys who spend time becoming friends with a chick in hope she eventually becomes his girlfriend

Are you not trying to bang the chicks from night game like that night or soon after?

At some point you have to turn it from indirect to honest even if you start like that

I assume you ain't simping
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Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:45 pm

Regards game @grodmeister general

I dont have much interest in going back to it

I dabbled a bit when I was 21ish to no success

I do know from experience that direct approach works. Maybe its less effective, but its efficient and does work if you look good

This site is an offshoot of GLL and Chris got his lays from being direct. As have hundreds of other guys that were on that site

However I'll say if you are passionate about defending game then consider going on @KillYourInnerLoser s podcast

It would be interesting to hear your full view
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Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:20 pm



Advice on how to hire a coach

Some insight into why I was confident in getting help from Andy before these forums existed and his blog barely did
Some mistakes I made as a dumb kid getting coaching
The main thing is PROOF as always
But i think a string of successful students might be just as good as proof they did it themselves
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