Questions about psychedlics?

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Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:55 pm

MILFandCookies wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:02 pm
MakingAComeback wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:13 pm
I am going to transport myself to a location where psilocybin mushrooms are legal :) That is Amsterdam, and from any London airport, it's about an hour flight.....

Me and my mate Dave will head down for 4 days, do 2 trips, and grow. Just waiting for Andy to talk to Ketan about it first.
Yo you of all people will love it. You're already a deep and thoughtful person who's interested in the human mind - all things that psychadelics explore in depth.

I can't wait to hear your experience on the subject - perhaps I can even have you on again to chat about it ;)

Keep us in the loop!
Cannot wait brother

I'll book my tickets, get my trip done, and then me & you will sit down and have a mind bending discussion!

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Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:53 pm

............

"I understand, I hope you have a beautiful existence"

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHA
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Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:30 am

KillYourInnerLoser wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:40 pm
MakingAComeback wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:53 pm
"I understand, I hope you have a beautiful existence"
It's funny, I say that now sometimes (while sober). The one thing my self-improvement journey has taught me is that if you go far enough, you start to feel peace and love and acceptance a lot more often, just as you're going about your life - it's the same peace and love and acceptance you feel on psychedelics.

Self-improvement, if you stick at it long enough and are patient enough, leads to the same place psychedelics do. At least, that's been my experience.

It wouldn't surprise me if you and @MILFandCookies both know exactly what I'm talking about - the deep peace/love/gratitude that self-improvement brings, if you stick at it for long enough (years).
Yup. Totally get it. I'm all lovey dovey and shit now it's super gay 😂

At the end of the interview he talked about an awesome trip that turned into a nightmare where there was nothing at all and he missed his problems because at least then he could feel.

I had a similar experience this recent trip - instead of nothing, I was everything, everywhere all at once. I felt a lot like Jobu Tupaki in that movie. Every moment every universe both possible and impossible was born and died inside me, and the life I remembered living was only one small bit of the eternal fractal soup that is existence. I felt lost in an infinite infinite existence, with no end not even with time, since everything was a never ending multidimensional fractal. And like Jobu Tupaki and the Everything Bagel I felt so lonely and wondered what the point was.

When I finally returned, I felt so grateful for the stupid problems of everyday existence. Like tears of joy. The aches in my body, the problems I'd been working hard to overcome.

They anchored me to something familiar. His description of his trip reminded me of mine - very similar in the lesson learned.
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Loved it so far! I still have a tiny bit to listen to but i had a blast listening to it while doing some cleaning.

Thanks for the mention! Great answer too! I sometimes get too stuck in the spiritual side. But it still takes alot of work to stick to the things you learn through the trips.

Incredible story about you traveling by train and go out and about @KillYourInnerLoser.

I've only once tried to go outside on LSD. I think it was about 200Ug. At the time it felt like a fantastic idea. I live near a beautiful forest with some nice graslands too. So i decided that when i felt that trip was starting to go there and just see what happends.

There was only 1 road i had to cross near my home and when i wanted to cross it. Someone used his/her car horn to greet someone. But the sound was just so intense i really freaked out for a moment and i made way fast towards the forest. I thought that i was already peaking on the trip. What i didn't know is that i vastly underestimated the intensity. I wasn't peaking at all. This was just the start.

When i finally was at the grasslands and at the border of the forest. I was absolutely tripping balls. Nature looked beautiful, but i wasn't able to get into the right vibe for some reason. Something i normally was quite good at. At some point i was like. I think its better if i walk home. Its too much.
To make matters worse, i kept having the sensation that i was about to pass out. Which makes me pretty panicky. Because i could see other people walking up the same road as me from the opposite direction. I was like nope nope nope. What if the ambulance comes?! What do i have to tell them?? what if this hits the news??
Luckily i got back at the grasslands again and decided that i wanted to sit for a moment at a random spot.
This didn't help either because i became super paranoid. I thought things like. Its REALLY suspicious that i sit exactly at this spot.. People will probably know i'm tripping balls. In the distance i saw a man walking his dog and it looked like he would walk right at me ( i doubt it looking back lol) so i got up again and walked slowly yet pretty panicky back at home..
I'm recalling what happened in between that good. But i finally got back home. WHAT A INTENSE SHIT WAS THAT... This definitely was a difficult trip. I thought it would be over in half an hour... But nope.. Only 1 hour had passed... I did all that in 1 hour. It felt easily as 4/5 hours.
But at home the trip went pretty well actually. and i ended up having a great time.

So i heavily respect people who are able to just vibe outside. I had quite a cool experience at psy-fi where everyone was tripping on psychedelics and psytrance, but apart from that i learned its best for me to stay inside. I have my best trips just at home in my room discovering my inner being.

Pretty cool that Ketan mentioned Leo from Actualized.org.

I know he can come off as quite arrogant and has a couple of really wild spiritual (pretty interesting though) idea's. but if you view through that he has quite a substantial amount of high quality material (His psychedelic videos, But also his Spiral Dynamics series. That model has been an absolute gamechanger for me personally).
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Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:59 am

IceMan wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 9:25 pm
Loved it so far! I still have a tiny bit to listen to but i had a blast listening to it while doing some cleaning.

Thanks for the mention! Great answer too! I sometimes get too stuck in the spiritual side. But it still takes alot of work to stick to the things you learn through the trips.

Incredible story about you traveling by train and go out and about @KillYourInnerLoser.

I've only once tried to go outside on LSD. I think it was about 200Ug. At the time it felt like a fantastic idea. I live near a beautiful forest with some nice graslands too. So i decided that when i felt that trip was starting to go there and just see what happends.

There was only 1 road i had to cross near my home and when i wanted to cross it. Someone used his/her car horn to greet someone. But the sound was just so intense i really freaked out for a moment and i made way fast towards the forest. I thought that i was already peaking on the trip. What i didn't know is that i vastly underestimated the intensity. I wasn't peaking at all. This was just the start.

When i finally was at the grasslands and at the border of the forest. I was absolutely tripping balls. Nature looked beautiful, but i wasn't able to get into the right vibe for some reason. Something i normally was quite good at. At some point i was like. I think its better if i walk home. Its too much.
To make matters worse, i kept having the sensation that i was about to pass out. Which makes me pretty panicky. Because i could see other people walking up the same road as me from the opposite direction. I was like nope nope nope. What if the ambulance comes?! What do i have to tell them?? what if this hits the news??
Luckily i got back at the grasslands again and decided that i wanted to sit for a moment at a random spot.
This didn't help either because i became super paranoid. I thought things like. Its REALLY suspicious that i sit exactly at this spot.. People will probably know i'm tripping balls. In the distance i saw a man walking his dog and it looked like he would walk right at me ( i doubt it looking back lol) so i got up again and walked slowly yet pretty panicky back at home..
I'm recalling what happened in between that good. But i finally got back home. WHAT A INTENSE SHIT WAS THAT... This definitely was a difficult trip. I thought it would be over in half an hour... But nope.. Only 1 hour had passed... I did all that in 1 hour. It felt easily as 4/5 hours.
But at home the trip went pretty well actually. and i ended up having a great time.

So i heavily respect people who are able to just vibe outside. I had quite a cool experience at psy-fi where everyone was tripping on psychedelics and psytrance, but apart from that i learned its best for me to stay inside. I have my best trips just at home in my room discovering my inner being.

Pretty cool that Ketan mentioned Leo from Actualized.org.

I know he can come off as quite arrogant and has a couple of really wild spiritual (pretty interesting though) idea's. but if you view through that he has quite a substantial amount of high quality material (His psychedelic videos, But also his Spiral Dynamics series. That model has been an absolute gamechanger for me personally).
Coming back to this thread 2 weeks later because why not.

Sounds pretty intense man.

I had to work up to it for sure. Got into a few scary moments tripping in public - accidentally kicked some rando's soccer ball into a crowded highway 😂 (no crashes or injuries thank the lord) and a few other mishaps.

Most fun time was running 11 miles on a very public running trail here in Austin peaking on acid, feeling like I was running through my subconscious. I'd planned to run a marathon but my legs ended up buckling after 11 miles because I had no water, no electrolytes, and no conditioning in advance. It was a spur of the moment decision while I was tripping balls.

I ended up asking this nice lady who had just finished her run and she somehow had a Propel packet (it's like gatorade powder you can mix with water.) She didn't realize I was tripping just thought I was really nice haha.

I had an awesome friend who introduced me to psychadelics and helped me trust it and become comfortable doing things while in an altered state of mind. I am very grateful for his guidance.

Going outside while in that state of mind isn't for everyone (heck the drugs aren't for everyone, they're illegal pretty much everywhere so accept the consequences and do your research of course) but I personally enjoy it in the right settings.
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