Second Photoshoot. Any feedback? - Getting Laid + Trying to sell a game

[D4vidDG]

Approaching

Date

I scheduled two dates yesterday and today with two different girls. Both of them didn't show up to the date. It feels really frustrating. Am I not screening these girls properly?

Approaching

Yesterday I wanted to take the day off because I approached 10 women on Saturday, and I'm currently looking to do 5 approaches per day.

Then I spent until 12AM playing video games. So, I waste today's morning.

However, after that girl stood me up, I started doing approaches.

Two girls ignored me.

I approached one girl on the back. She was kinda astonished. I got her number.

I approached two girls that were hanging out together. I was trying to do that before so I can approach more in different scenarios. I pussied out every chance I had, but today I did it. I feel proud for that.

It was awkward. I told them both looked nice today. Then I asked their names. One of them tried to walk away with her friend, so I decided I was asking the hottest for her number. I did so. She gave me her number. The other girl kept staring at me. I don't know whether she felt hurt because I didn't ask her for her number, or she simply was surprised by my actions. Hurting someone's feelings makes me feel bad.

I'm looking to approach more groups in the future. Do you guys know any useful technique to approach groups of women?

(btw I counted that couple of girls as 2 approaches)

Selling a game

I worked 5 hours on the project between yesterday and today.

[pancakemouse]

Approaching

Date

I scheduled two dates yesterday and today with two different girls. Both of them didn't show up to the date. It feels really frustrating. Am I not screening these girls properly?

Approaching

Yesterday I wanted to take the day off because I approached 10 women on Saturday, and I'm currently looking to do 5 approaches per day.

Then I spent until 12AM playing video games. So, I waste today's morning.

However, after that girl stood me up, I started doing approaches.

Two girls ignored me.

I approached one girl on the back. She was kinda astonished. I got her number.

I approached two girls that were hanging out together. I was trying to do that before so I can approach more in different scenarios. I pussied out every chance I had, but today I did it. I feel proud for that.

It was awkward. I told them both looked nice today. Then I asked their names. One of them tried to walk away with her friend, so I decided I was asking the hottest for her number. I did so. She gave me her number. The other girl kept staring at me. I don't know whether she felt hurt because I didn't ask her for her number, or she simply was surprised by my actions. Hurting someone's feelings makes me feel bad.

I'm looking to approach more groups in the future. Do you guys know any useful technique to approach groups of women?

(btw I counted that couple of girls as 2 approaches)

Selling a game

I worked 5 hours on the project between yesterday and today.

The two dates:
- Did they stand you up (e.g. you showed up to the date venue and they never showed up) or did they just cancel over text?
- Did you text them day of to confirm the date was on? This is primordial.
- What was your texting like in the days before the date? Screenshots may be helpful.

I would not spend time approaching groups. I've approached 100+ groups and never gotten a single result from it.

(Approaching a group just counts as one approach, by the way)

[D4vidDG]

The two dates:
- Did they stand you up (e.g. you showed up to the date venue and they never showed up) or did they just cancel over text?
- Did you text them the day of to confirm the date was on? This is primordial.
- What was your texting like in the days before the date? Screenshots may be helpful.

-They stood me up.
-Yes I did.
-I deleted the conversations. However, in both cases, I limited myself to greet and talk about logistics (place, time) for the date. That's all.

I would not spend time approaching groups. I've approached 100+ groups and never gotten a single result from it.

I guess I'll do it if they are 2 girls and one of them is really hot.

[pancakemouse]

The two dates:
- Did they stand you up (e.g. you showed up to the date venue and they never showed up) or did they just cancel over text?
- Did you text them the day of to confirm the date was on? This is primordial.
- What was your texting like in the days before the date? Screenshots may be helpful.

-They stood me up.
-Yes I did.
-I deleted the conversations. However, in both cases, I limited myself to greet and talk about logistics (place, time) for the date. That's all.

In my personal experience, and experiences helping hundreds of guys with dating, this is not normal. I've been on 200+ dates and only been stood up once.

However, a couple factors:

- I think you're in a Latino country, yeah? Girls there are highly flaky and it's possible this could be more normal. Still, two in one day is uncommon.

- I'd need to see your texting next time, but just greeting and texting for logistics isn't ideal. That advice may have worked a decade ago, but it's 2022 and girls use texting as an extension of talking. You need to be able to "Game" them through text as well. This means flirting, showing them slices of your life, even sending them photos.

This is an example of the minimum amount of texting I do between approach and date:


Most of it is logistics, but I'm still using a callback line (she was eating a Red Velvet Loaf from Starbucks) and teasing her a bit about making good conversation.

[D4vidDG]

- I think you're in a Latino country, yeah? Girls there are highly flaky and it's possible this could be more normal. Still, two in one day is uncommon.

I live in Colombia. Do you speak Spanish? That's cool.

Most of it is logistics, but I'm still using a callback line (she was eating a Red Velvet Loaf from Starbucks) and teasing her a bit about making good conversation.

This is gold, I'll try to put your advice into practice. Some of my last conversations:

Girl 1 (Met her yesterday. Tomorrow we have a date)

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Me: Hello cutie, how are you
Her: Hello, all good.
And you?
Me: All good, I'm working.
We should have a drink. Are you free tomorrow in the afternoon?
Her: Let me see. I'll tell you later
Her: What time?
Me: When you call me, I'll go pa'lla baby (its a reference to a song)
I say we should meet at 2 at the Restrepo station
Her: I don't know. Well yeah.
Me: Nice. I'll see you tomorrow then


I think she's gonna flake. That last "I don't know" isn't promising.


Girl 2 (Met her today. We have a date on Thursday)

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[8:40 PM, 2/22/2022] David: Hi Katherine
[8:40 PM, 2/22/2022] David: I'm Juan David. We met in Restrepo
[8:40 PM, 2/22/2022] David: How are you doing?
[8:41 PM, 2/22/2022] z Katherine: Hello
[8:42 PM, 2/22/2022] z Katherine: All good, and you?
[8:42 PM, 2/22/2022] David: All good, resting from today's shift.
[8:42 PM, 2/22/2022] z Katherine: What shift? Haha
[8:43 PM, 2/22/2022] David: Haha, well, I do several things during the day and I get tired :')
[8:43 PM, 2/22/2022] David: Apart from scaring a girl. (I mean the approach)
[8:43 PM, 2/22/2022] z Katherine: Hahahahaha I thought you were going to rob me hahahahaha
[8:44 PM, 2/22/2022] z Katherine: Like what?
[8:44 PM, 2/22/2022] David: Hahaha do I look like a mugger, or am I just ugly? : 'v
[8:45 PM, 2/22/2022] David: I'm Batman
[8:45 PM, 2/22/2022] z Katherine: Well, if I'm walking down the street and someone I don't know comes up to me, what do you want me to think? hahaha
[8:45 PM, 2/22/2022] z Katherine: Yum hahaha
[8:46 PM, 2/22/2022] David: Shiit, next time I'll yell at you from the distance to be sure hahaha
[8:48 PM, 2/22/2022] David: I was working on programming a video game
[8:48 PM, 2/22/2022] z Katherine: Hahahaha I guess you'll have to.
[8:49 PM, 2/22/2022] z Katherine: Ohh so cool
[8:50 PM, 2/22/2022] David: We should drink something. Are you free on Thursday afternoon?
[8:50 PM, 2/22/2022] z Katherine: I get off work at 5 haha
[8:51 PM, 2/22/2022] David: Do you mind going out so late?
[8:51 PM, 2/22/2022] z Katherine: No
[8:51 PM, 2/22/2022] z Katherine: I don't have more time hahaha
[8:51 PM, 2/22/2022] David: Well, let's meet at 5:30 pm at the Restrepo station
[8:52 PM, 2/22/2022] z Katherine: Ok, I'll message you when I'm out.
[8:52 PM, 2/22/2022] David: Cool, it will be fun
[9:00 PM, 2/22/2022] z Katherine: Good

Very promising.

Girl 3 (Met her some days ago. We had a date today)

I'm lazy to put the screenshots xd

[8:25 PM, 2/18/2022] David: Hi Danna. I am Juan David. We met near Restrepo.
[8:25 PM, 2/18/2022] David: How are you doing?
[9:11 PM, 2/18/2022] z Danna: Hello, how are you? Of course, how could I forget the way you scared me?
[9:13 PM, 2/18/2022] David: Hahaha sorry, disadvantages of being ugly (bad move ugh)
[9:13 PM, 2/18/2022] David: It has never happened to you or what?
[9:16 PM, 2/18/2022] David: By the way, where do you live?
[9:28 PM, 2/18/2022] z Danna: Not on the street and out of the blue
[9:28 PM, 2/18/2022] z Danna: Ummm over there near Restrepo
[9:37 PM, 2/18/2022] David: Cool. We should have something to drink. Are you free on Sunday afternoon?
[9:49 PM, 2/18/2022] z Danna: Umm no. I really would have to know you more before seeing you
[9:05 AM, 2/19/2022] David: Well, it is more fun to meet in person, chatting is boring. We can meet in a public place if you have doubts. And if not, that's fine, it was nice meeting you.
[4:20 PM, 2/19/2022] z Danna: Can you meet during the week?
[4:46 PM, 2/19/2022] David: Yep.
[4:53 PM, 2/19/2022] David: Let's meet on Monday afternoon.
[5:32 PM, 2/19/2022] z Danna: That's fine

[8:54 AM, 2/21/2022] David: Hi cutie, I'll see you in Restrepo at 2

[3:23 PM, 2/21/2022] David: Hello
[3:24 PM, 2/21/2022] z Danna: Hello
[3:24 PM, 2/21/2022] z Danna: Hey it's raining. Do we leave it for another day?
[3:25 PM, 2/21/2022] David: I don't mind a bit of rain. If you want I can pick you up near your house. I have an umbrella
[3:26 PM, 2/21/2022] z Danna: I don't like going out in the rain. I live about 3 neighborhoods away. Tomorrow?
[3:26 PM, 2/21/2022] David: Ok

[9:43 AM, 2/22/2022] David: Hey Danna, so how about we meet at 2 at the Restrepo station?
[10:42 AM, 2/22/2022] z Danna: Hello
[10:43 AM, 2/22/2022] z Danna: Could we meet later?
[11:11 AM, 2/22/2022] David: Yeah sure. How about 4?
[3:05 PM, 2/22/2022] David: So, will I see you later? It's making a beautiful day to meet you
[3:07 PM, 2/22/2022] z Danna: Yeah.

(I commented about the horrible weather)

[3:42 PM, 2/22/2022] z Danna: Hahaha yes I think, where will we meet?
[3:51 PM, 2/22/2022] David: At the Restrepo station
[3:57 PM, 2/22/2022] z Danna: I'm here

[5:46 PM, 2/22/2022] z Danna: Thank you and sorry if I wasn't in my best mood, it was nice meeting you.
[5:51 PM, 2/22/2022] David: It's fine, thanks to you too, I had a great time.
[5:56 PM, 2/22/2022] David: I would like to see you again another day.


Not sure if she'll be down to a second date. Will see.


Thanks @pancakemouse for your awesome feedback dude. Appreciate it a lot.

[pancakemouse]

- I think you're in a Latino country, yeah? Girls there are highly flaky and it's possible this could be more normal. Still, two in one day is uncommon.

I live in Colombia. Do you speak Spanish? That's cool.

....

Thanks @pancakemouse for your awesome feedback dude. Appreciate it a lot.

All you had to say was Colombia for this story to make sense. Colombian women are some of the most flaky in the entire world. Two girls standing you up is still uncommon, but if I'd expect it anywhere it would be Colombia.

Your second conversation is ideal. More than logistics, you're chatting with her and giving her an insight into your life (though she made it easy for you by chasing you).

For Danna, you rushed it a bit by pitching the date when her "buying temperature" wasn't receptive enough.

Read this, it may help you: https://pancakemouse.wordpress.com/2021 ... text-game/

[D4vidDG]

Approaching

Date

I had a date today. The girl showed up. I bought ice cream for both. She seemed worried or disturbed by something. I asked what happened. She said that she had a lot of things to think about. Anyway, the date went excellent in my opinion. We talked a lot, we laughed, and I did a lot of physical contact. In the end, I was embracing her with one arm and caressing her arm.

She didn't seem to bother my escalation until the end when I was hugging her. She stopped talking. Then she asked for the time. (Did I escalate too fast?)

I asked her to come back to my place. She said she didn't know me enough. She said she had to leave. We both left.

I'll try to set up a second date and try again.

Approaching

I was feeling more AA than other days.

I approached two girls. Good conversation. Got her numbers.

Then I went back to my house. I wrote down some positive affirmations I'll be repeating before going out from now on. I really want to stop making up excuses and wasting time.

Then I went out again. I did 3 approaches faster. Sadly, 2 ignored me and the other one had a bf.

Selling a game

I worked 2 hours on the project.

[D4vidDG]

All you had to say was Colombia for this story to make sense. Colombian women are some of the most flaky in the entire world. Two girls standing you up is still uncommon, but if I'd expect it anywhere it would be Colombia.

Hahaha really? Well, I guess I'll play this in hardcore mode

For Danna, you rushed it a bit by pitching the date when her "buying temperature" wasn't receptive enough.

Yeah, sometimes I feel I rush it with girls. I was trying to follow Andy's advice of keeping thigs short and to the point. But anyway, this is all just a big experiment, I guess.

I got a date though hahaha.

Read this, it may help you: https://pancakemouse.wordpress.com/2021 ... text-game/

Thank u, will do.

[D4vidDG]

Approaching

Date

I messaged the girl 2 hours before the date to see if she was still down to meet. She didn't give any response, so I thought she wasn't coming.

Apparently, she did wait for me in the spot and I was the one that stood her up. We were talking through Instagram because she said she didn't have a phone when I approached. So the reason why she didn't notify me she was there was that "she forgot her Instagram password". She told me that through someone else Instagram.

Anyway, too complicated, I'll move on.

Approaching

I felt really bad yesterday. I didn't want to approach.

I did 2 approaches with no results. Then I started walking around, passing by every opportunity I had because I was making up excuses for not approaching. I felt horrible for falling back into the same patterns. I don't know why I still struggle with this. I decided to take the day off and do better today.

I think sometimes I feel a bit impatient for not getting results from approaching. Not even seeing changes in the way I face fear and anxiety. Then I tell myself it's a waste of time and that I should not do it.

Also, sometimes I feel fed up of rejection and girls cancelling the last minute.

Anyway, that's pretty normal I guess. Getting laid from approaching is difficult. I'm trying to find a job and save some money to buy new outfits and a quality camera to take photos. This way, I can get more results from online apps.

I'm not giving up. Not this time. Not anymore. I'll try harder. That's the only way


Selling a game

Lazy day. I didn't make progress.

[GrantDaniel]

Keep you head up high brother, get after it

[D4vidDG]

Approaching

Date


I had a nice date with a girl and she came to my house.

But, bad news guys, I didn't even kiss her. Idk why I didn't do it, I knew I had to, but, I just didn't.

I have to say that I didn't feel totally attracted to her. She was pretty average. Maybe that plays a role in why I didn't put effort into trying to fuck her.

But I feel guilty. I feel I should have tried to get laid anyway.

Approaching

I did 6 approaches today. I got no numbers. They ignored me or had a bf.

For some reason, I don't feel the same confidence as before. Approaching isn't making me feel more confident.

Anyway, no excuses. 6 approaches more tomorrow.

Selling a game

I worked on the project for 1 hour.

[D4vidDG]

Approaching

Approaching

Hey guys. Yesterday I was a lazy boy and I didn't go out . So today I crushed it.

I did 12 approaches. I got 4 numbers and 1 Instagram. One of them seems to be fake, or she doesn't use WhatsApp for some reason, or I wrote the number wrong.

Some girls ignored me.

Some girls had a boyfriend or were married (haha it's so funny when I hit up a married woman).

But most girls were really nice even though they didn't give me her number.

If I'm honest, I felt renewed energy and more confidence after having a lazy day. I think sometimes you can suffer from burnout when you approach on a daily basis. I was certainly suffering and thinking I wasn't enough from girls.

Anyway, a pretty good day. 6 approaches coming down tomorrow.

Questions

- I'm running out of money. I need a backup plan in case I meet someone this week. I know it's not ideal but I shouldn't miss any opportunities. What are your best options for dates with no money?
- I'm planning to increase my approach count to 10 by the end of March. Idk what comes after that. I'll be busy with university and trying to earn money. Are 10 approaches too much or just enough to keep doing on a daily basis in a short period of time?
-There's just one place near my house where there're usually a lot of girls. I go there every day. Sometimes I feel I'm "overusing" that place and that people will notice me, or that I will end up approaching the same girls again and again. Does the same happen to you? How do you deal with that?

Selling a game

I worked 6 hours on the project between yesterday and today. Not the most productive hours cause I always look for the "perfect" code and I end up wasting time just thinking. Anyway, tomorrow will be better

[D4vidDG]

Read this, it may help you: https://pancakemouse.wordpress.com/2021 ... text-game/

Hey @pancakemouse , I just read your post. It's pretty good. I've been making a lot of mistakes that I would try to correct in future interactions.

I just have one question: Does this also applies when you're approaching? Because usually, when I'm making small-talk with the girl I'm approaching, I feel I do a lot of this stuff (asking lots of questions, being friendly, caring, etc). Then I ask for her number.

Is this counter-productive? Should I change my strategy?

Thanks for your feedback

[pancakemouse]

Read this, it may help you: https://pancakemouse.wordpress.com/2021 ... text-game/

Hey @pancakemouse , I just read your post. It's pretty good. I've been making a lot of mistakes that I would try to correct in future interactions.

I just have one question: Does this also applies when you're approaching? Because usually, when I'm making small-talk with the girl I'm approaching, I feel I do a lot of this stuff (asking lots of questions, being friendly, caring, etc). Then I ask for her number.

Is this counter-productive? Should I change my strategy?

Thanks for your feedback

Small talk is more acceptable on the approach than over text. But the same general rules apply:

Daygame topics, in order from least to most optimal:

4. objects/ideas/things
3. you
2. her
1. you and her

Examples:

4. "do they serve good food at that restaurant"
3. "I've been known to be a little bit of a cook"
2. "you seem like you can't handle spicy food ;-)"
1. "so if I cook you my spicy Nepalese curry you're not gonna complain? ;-)"

[D4vidDG]

Approaching

Instadate

I went to another location in the north part of the city. Generally, there is a lot of high-value girls there. I went to a mall and got really disappointed. There was none.

So I started walking to another mall near there. As I was walking there, I saw a cute girl walking towards me. I approached here.

She said, "Not now. I'm feeling pretty bad". Understandable. I said goodbye and I left.

However, after I walked a short distance, I looked behind and she was walking towards me again. That had never happened before.

When she reached me, she apologized for being rude (though she wasn't really) and offered to come with me to the mall. I took the chance and I invited her directly to drink something.

We had a pretty nice conversation while we were drinking a beer. She told me about her career, her hobbies, her worries, and her current emotional state. Apparently, she had to let go of a friend that treated her like shit. Also, some months ago, her bf left her to travel to Spain. She felt horrible because her bf didn't seem to care.

She says she's tired of people. Should I be worried about this?

It was moving, indeed. She started to cry in front of me even though we barely knew each other. She really needed someone to listen to her. I'm glad I could be that person. It felt good.

Anyway, I thought I shouldn't take advantage of her emotional state, so I didn't ask her back to my apartment. I pitched a date (I rushed things a bit tbh) by text some hours after the date.

I understand that trying to be her psychologist is manipulative and not ideal if I'm looking to bang her. So I'll definitely invite her near my house the next time and not spend a lot of time talking about her problems. That could go after we bang I guess.

Anyway, it was an awesome experience to get to know someone and make them open to you so quickly.

Approaching

After the instadate, I decided to go back home and call it a day. However, I went through the mall again and there were more girls this time. I approached 5 girls in total (I'll compensate tomorrow). I got two numbers.

One of them was funny cause I passed by a woman and then proceed to look at her ass. Then I saw another girl and I had the feeling that she saw me doing that. I approached anyway and got rejected. Not my best idea but worth trying XD.

Seven approaches more tomorrow.

Questions

- I'm running out of money. I need a backup plan in case I meet someone this week. I know it's not ideal but I shouldn't miss any opportunities. What are your best options for dates with no money?
- I'm planning to increase my approach count to 10 by the end of March. Idk what comes after that. I'll be busy with university and trying to earn money. Are 10 approaches too much or just enough to keep doing on a daily basis in a short period of time?
-There's just one place near my house where there're usually a lot of girls. I go there every day. Sometimes I feel I'm "overusing" that place and that people will notice me, or that I will end up approaching the same girls again and again. Does the same happen to you? How do you deal with that?

Selling a game

I worked 3 hours on the project.