Crimson’s Progress Log: AA Program - Day 5a (Vlog)

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Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:17 pm

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Taking out a $10.000 bank loan in order to move out and live comfortably for a while
this is literally what andy did as you know and one of my personal inspirations for even being here on this site.

one thing i had when i started that some guys don't was "unlimited" money (i ended up spending around $35,000 over the course of a year moving around, paying double rent, on fashion, eye surgery, escorts, plane tickets, increased living expenses, tinder platinum, unforeseen circumstances as a result of this lifestyle etc etc etc etc).

having already figured out money, i was able to go all in with getting laid and making the required life changes without having to ever say "oh this is too expensive..."

if taking a $10,000 bank loan will allow you to get your own place and focus on going all-in with getting laid and not potentially make "this is too expensive..." excuses then freakin do it

you'll figure out a way to pay back the loan

strongly recommend the $10,000 moving out loan, if you're serious.

...

regarding the additional $15,000 loan for coaching, i think moving out alone should drastically improve your results, given that you won't have to manage parent logistics. it's a larger improvement than you might realize right now. i would do this incrementally and see what results you can get and then consider it
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Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:24 am

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Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:14 pm
25.000 Dollar bank loan?

It does sound pretty ridiculous as I’m typing it. I made a video log, but for some reason I can’t attach it.

Anyways it’s just an idea, but I‘m grateful for any feedback on this.





I‘m considering:

1. Taking out a $10.000 bank loan in order to move out and live comfortably for a while.

2. After moving out, taking out another $15.000 to become Andy’s 1-on-one coaching client.




My reasoning behind moving out is obvious. I want to be able to go all-in with getting laid, as trying to do so at my parents house has proven to come with it‘s fair share of difficulties.

As for becoming Andy’s coaching client, I’m convinced that I would eventually figure out how to get laid, even without his help, BUT he would MASSIVELY speed up the process.




Paying the money back and logistics:

•I live in a city with roughly 200.000 people, I have big cities (~600.000 people) right beside me as well.

•I will still go to school for 3 more years, which means I won‘t be moving to another city if I do move out.

•I don’t have a full-time job as I’m still going to school, I’ll have to find a part-time job if I do move out.

•They’re cheaper rents for students. I’m still one for 3 years so that’s good.

•I would obviously be $25.000 in debt.


Conclusion:

That’s pretty much it. I have no idea how I would pay that money back, but I’ll just have to chip away at it a bit at a time.

I want to knock out this “getting laid phase” pretty fast (while still enjoying it, of course), because I want to focus on becoming a professional basketball player in the future.


I obviously haven’t worked out any details, but how realistic is this? In my mind, it’s like being $25.000 (or more) in debt after applying to college. All things considered, it’s an investment that I think makes a lot of sense, despite it’s loftiness.

Crimson
At first glance is seems absolutely crazy, but when you compare it to the debt that many university students take on to party for four years and then get mostly worthless degrees it seems much more reasonable.

In the end it's obviously your call to make.

At the very least I'd give it several days of consideration and talk it over with some people you trust and that you feel have your best interests at heart.


Looking back on my own life I probably would have gotten much more out of working with someone like Andy than going to college right after high school, but again, that's my life, and you're going to have to decide what's best for you.


One practical question, how sure are you you'll be able to get $25,000 in loans? Are you going to have someone co-sign or is it just easier to get loans in Germany?
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Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:24 am

colgate wrote:
Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:17 pm
Crimson wrote:
Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:14 pm
Taking out a $10.000 bank loan in order to move out and live comfortably for a while
this is literally what andy did as you know and one of my personal inspirations for even being here on this site.

one thing i had when i started that some guys don't was "unlimited" money (i ended up spending around $35,000 over the course of a year moving around, paying double rent, on fashion, eye surgery, escorts, plane tickets, increased living expenses, tinder platinum, unforeseen circumstances as a result of this lifestyle etc etc etc etc).

having already figured out money, i was able to go all in with getting laid and making the required life changes without having to ever say "oh this is too expensive..."

if taking a $10,000 bank loan will allow you to get your own place and focus on going all-in with getting laid and not potentially make "this is too expensive..." excuses then freakin do it

you'll figure out a way to pay back the loan

strongly recommend the $10,000 moving out loan, if you're serious.

...

regarding the additional $15,000 loan for coaching, i think moving out alone should drastically improve your results, given that you won't have to manage parent logistics. it's a larger improvement than you might realize right now. i would do this incrementally and see what results you can get and then consider it
Yeah it’s definitely smarter to do this incrementally if I’m gonna do it, thanks for your feedback. Moving out would definitely come with lots of benefits, it’s seems like a worthwhile decision.
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Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:28 am

Manly Cockfellow wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:24 am
Crimson wrote:
Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:14 pm
25.000 Dollar bank loan?

It does sound pretty ridiculous as I’m typing it. I made a video log, but for some reason I can’t attach it.

Anyways it’s just an idea, but I‘m grateful for any feedback on this.





I‘m considering:

1. Taking out a $10.000 bank loan in order to move out and live comfortably for a while.

2. After moving out, taking out another $15.000 to become Andy’s 1-on-one coaching client.




My reasoning behind moving out is obvious. I want to be able to go all-in with getting laid, as trying to do so at my parents house has proven to come with it‘s fair share of difficulties.

As for becoming Andy’s coaching client, I’m convinced that I would eventually figure out how to get laid, even without his help, BUT he would MASSIVELY speed up the process.




Paying the money back and logistics:

•I live in a city with roughly 200.000 people, I have big cities (~600.000 people) right beside me as well.

•I will still go to school for 3 more years, which means I won‘t be moving to another city if I do move out.

•I don’t have a full-time job as I’m still going to school, I’ll have to find a part-time job if I do move out.

•They’re cheaper rents for students. I’m still one for 3 years so that’s good.

•I would obviously be $25.000 in debt.


Conclusion:

That’s pretty much it. I have no idea how I would pay that money back, but I’ll just have to chip away at it a bit at a time.

I want to knock out this “getting laid phase” pretty fast (while still enjoying it, of course), because I want to focus on becoming a professional basketball player in the future.


I obviously haven’t worked out any details, but how realistic is this? In my mind, it’s like being $25.000 (or more) in debt after applying to college. All things considered, it’s an investment that I think makes a lot of sense, despite it’s loftiness.

Crimson
At first glance is seems absolutely crazy, but when you compare it to the debt that many university students take on to party for four years and then get mostly worthless degrees it seems much more reasonable.

In the end it's obviously your call to make.

At the very least I'd give it several days of consideration and talk it over with some people you trust and that you feel have your best interests at heart.


Looking back on my own life I probably would have gotten much more out of working with someone like Andy than going to college right after high school, but again, that's my life, and you're going to have to decide what's best for you.


One practical question, how sure are you you'll be able to get $25,000 in loans? Are you going to have someone co-sign or is it just easier to get loans in Germany?
I would first get the $10,000 bank loan anyway, but I’m actually not sure if I’ll be able to get the extra $15,000 after, I have to find out.

Compared to going to college this seems like a reasonable investment though, like you said.
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Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:03 am

What I will do today:

-Go to gym

-Approach 5 girls

-1 hour OLD grind

-1 hour studying for drivers license exam
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Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:59 am

Date update:

•Basketball Girl coming over tomorrow

•Date with Lovoo Girl scheduled for Sunday


Thoughts on:

Basketball Girl:
I already had Baksteball Girl naked in my bed but couldn't get that lay #1 because of ED.

I have to drill in to my head how important it is to get laid with her tomorrow. My parents will probably be there, but we'll have the upper apartment to ourselves.

Lovoo Girl:
She might flake, but she seemed into me. If she doesn't, same thing with her, I NEED that lay (ethically).


Conclusion:
I have a goal to achieve here, I'll do everything I can to make ot happen, everything else is outside of my control.

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Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:06 am

Crimson wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:59 am
Date update:


Basketball Girl:
I already had Baksteball Girl naked in my bed but couldn't get that lay #1 because of ED.

I have to drill in to my head how important it is to get laid with her tomorrow. My parents will probably be there, but we'll have the upper apartment to ourselves.


Crimson
You shouldn’t drill how important this lay is. She was into you so that’s proof you can get her. No need to be outcome dependent
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Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:08 pm

Crimson wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:59 am
Basketball Girl:
I already had Baksteball Girl naked in my bed but couldn't get that lay #1 because of ED.
kratjeuh wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:06 am
Lovoo Girl:
She might flake, but she seemed into me. If she doesn't, same thing with her, I NEED that lay (ethically).
I'm worried you're focusing way too much on the negatives (didn't get the lay) and not enough on the positives: you had an attractive young woman naked in your bed who you did tons of fun sexual stuff with!

Give yourself some credit man!

Even non-penatrative sex is a beautiful, beautiful thing and with the right perspective it should be a cherished memory (especially if it was your first organic sexual experience like I believe it was) instead of some failure that you're beating yourself up about.

Do you see what I'm saying?


Also, quit treating your dick like a voluntary muscle that you should be able to control. It's way more like your heart, and if you ever heard someone complain about how they couldn't get their heart to beat faster or slower you'd probably think they were a little nuts.

Just set yourself up for success by laying off the porn, doing some LISS cardio every other day (google it), doing PE or whatever else works for you instead of masturbating yourself to numbness, and try to enjoy your partner's body and beauty and pleasure more than you worry about whether your damn dick is working.

Because I guarantee however nervous you are about performing, she's gonna be ten times more nervous, and worried about whether she looks fat and whether what she's doing is sexy and making you feel good and turning you on, so try to have fun and don't be afraid to show your enjoyment and tell her how hot she is and how good what she's doing feels, because she'll have a way better time if you do!


Last thing is stop focusing so much on your number of lays!

I know number one is a big deal for everyone, but if you can I really hope you'll just focus on having as many beautiful, mutually awesome sexual experiences as you can with women who are excited to sleep with you, and not on some completely arbitrary number

(I know some guys list number of lays as a way of quickly establishing credibility or quickly saying where they are in terms of experience, and fair enough, but it's far better to aim for quality sex, because once you get to the point where you have great sex almost every time you'll honestly be getting more sex than you can handle, because women will be almost desperate to sleep with you!).
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Fri Sep 23, 2022 2:31 pm

kratjeuh wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:06 am
Crimson wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:59 am
Date update:


Basketball Girl:
I already had Baksteball Girl naked in my bed but couldn't get that lay #1 because of ED.

I have to drill in to my head how important it is to get laid with her tomorrow. My parents will probably be there, but we'll have the upper apartment to ourselves.


Crimson
You shouldn’t drill how important this lay is. She was into you so that’s proof you can get her. No need to be outcome dependent
Yeah, you’re right she’s already into me.

I do need to let go of the outcome, I’m putting to much pressure on myself and therefore making the process unenjoyable. This is supposed to be fun. Thanks for your comment.
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Fri Sep 23, 2022 2:57 pm

Manly Cockfellow wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:08 pm
Crimson wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:59 am
Basketball Girl:
I already had Baksteball Girl naked in my bed but couldn't get that lay #1 because of ED.
kratjeuh wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:06 am
Lovoo Girl:
She might flake, but she seemed into me. If she doesn't, same thing with her, I NEED that lay (ethically).
I'm worried you're focusing way too much on the negatives (didn't get the lay) and not enough on the positives: you had an attractive young woman naked in your bed who you did tons of fun sexual stuff with!

Give yourself some credit man!

Even non-penatrative sex is a beautiful, beautiful thing and with the right perspective it should be a cherished memory (especially if it was your first organic sexual experience like I believe it was) instead of some failure that you're beating yourself up about.

Do you see what I'm saying?


Also, quit treating your dick like a voluntary muscle that you should be able to control. It's way more like your heart, and if you ever heard someone complain about how they couldn't get their heart to beat faster or slower you'd probably think they were a little nuts.

Just set yourself up for success by laying off the porn, doing some LISS cardio every other day (google it), doing PE or whatever else works for you instead of masturbating yourself to numbness, and try to enjoy your partner's body and beauty and pleasure more than you worry about whether your damn dick is working.

Because I guarantee however nervous you are about performing, she's gonna be ten times more nervous, and worried about whether she looks fat and whether what she's doing is sexy and making you feel good and turning you on, so try to have fun and don't be afraid to show your enjoyment and tell her how hot she is and how good what she's doing feels, because she'll have a way better time if you do!


Last thing is stop focusing so much on your number of lays!

I know number one is a big deal for everyone, but if you can I really hope you'll just focus on having as many beautiful, mutually awesome sexual experiences as you can with women who are excited to sleep with you, and not on some completely arbitrary number

(I know some guys list number of lays as a way of quickly establishing credibility or quickly saying where they are in terms of experience, and fair enough, but it's far better to aim for quality sex, because once you get to the point where you have great sex almost every time you'll honestly be getting more sex than you can handle, because women will be almost desperate to sleep with you!).


Thank you for your detailed feedback. Man, you’re right. I do focus on the negative too much. I should be grateful that I get too experience this, even if it’s not full-on sex. Gotta start treating my dick like we’re on the same team too.

I’m not really coming from a place of love when it comes to this getting laid stuff, more so from a place of desperation and bitterness. I gotta work on that.
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Fri Sep 23, 2022 3:26 pm

100% to Manly's comment. Next time you're with this girl, focus on having fun with her doing everything but sex. Yes actual sex is great but foreplay is also a ton of fun. You get to kiss her and play with her tits and make her feel good and get her all wound up and wanting you. Andy has helped other guys who had ED by getting them to focus on just being great at foreplay and he told them to plan NOT to have sex. And eventually that helped them get out of their own heads and get hard.

Also, Andy just put out a video on fixing ED which is perfect timing for you. youtube.com/watch?v=V07pjSPwKzY
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Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:39 pm

Adam wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 3:26 pm
100% to Manly's comment. Next time you're with this girl, focus on having fun with her doing everything but sex. Yes actual sex is great but foreplay is also a ton of fun. You get to kiss her and play with her tits and make her feel good and get her all wound up and wanting you. Andy has helped other guys who had ED by getting them to focus on just being great at foreplay and he told them to plan NOT to have sex. And eventually that helped them get out of their own heads and get hard.

Also, Andy just put out a video on fixing ED which is perfect timing for you. youtube.com/watch?v=V07pjSPwKzY
Thanks, I literally just got done watching that video, it resonated so much.

Alright, tomorrow I won’t use my dick at all. I really wasn’t that present during my first time with her, I’ll actually focus on her tomorrow.
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Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:21 pm

Fool Around with Basketball Girl #2

Fooled around with Basketball Girl again. Felt pretty weird today.

Like I planned, I didn’t use my dick at all. Did the usual, licked her pussy for ages (she went crazy), blindfold etc., than I told her that she won’t get my dick today. She asks why, I tell her she has to earn it. She asks how, I tell her she has to say: “Please play with my nipples”, (she refused to do this last time while grinning/being a brat).

She refuses and (most likely jokingly) says: ”If not today, than never” and doesn’t let me touch her. So we have a little power-play for 15 min. to see who would touch the other first. I end up losing, lol.

She than starts saying something about her meeting my parents so soon. I take this as a hint that she wants to know my intentions. I tell her I’m not looking for anything serious, she says she doesn’t as well. Cool.

I start touching her body again, but she says she doesn’t want to continue because it’s cold. We get dressed, talk a little, I walk her home. On the walk I tell her: “Just like today, if there’s something on your mind, you can always tell me.”, she says “Yeah, for sure.”

She than proceeds to explain that she thought I wanted something serious because last time, I kissed her on the cheek after fooling around and kissed her goodbye when we parted ways (???). Maybe she has intimacy issues? (She mentioned something about trauma regarding a previous relationship, I guess I understand not wanting to kiss in public, though)

So today I just hugged her goodbye, lol.


Note: I spotted self-harm scars on her forearm today, they look old, but she definitely used to cut herself. I didn’t tell her I saw them.

2nd note: Our conversations together feel “off”. It feels like we’re not on the same page somehow. It feels very “You vs. Me”, not “You and Me”.

Crimson
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Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:00 am

Date update:

•Lovoo Girl just texted me and said she still wants to meet up today but she wants me to come to her city instead because she has to work.

I politely declined.
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Sun Sep 25, 2022 2:16 am

Hey man, glad you got to fool around with Basketball girl again and didn't worry about your performance anxiety. One small bit of criticism:
Crimson wrote:
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I told her that she won’t get my dick today. She asks why, I tell her she has to earn it.
You didn't do anything wrong here, but you are allowed to tell her that you sometimes have trouble getting hard because you put a lot of pressure on yourself and get in your own head. You don't have to pretend it's about making her earn it. If you do tell her, just let her know it has nothing to do with her.
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