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Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:29 am

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This is an interesting concept. I think if you could market this correctly it is something that you could scale dramatically. I took a look at the company you linked and their website is actually pretty terrible. I think its a clothing brand that they are trying to push using models in destinations to show off the gear? I tried looking for information about the trips but it seems like you just DM them on Telegram to apply? I think you can set this up much better and if this is your only competition, there is room for success.

So the product is basically guys paying to have you take care of a holiday and supply the girls and activities so the client just has to show up and have a good time. How many guys does each of your trips support? It seems like your cost per client would have to be really high in order to make it work. That said you could probably arrange deals with the locations and venues to get significant discounts to lower your overall running costs which you could build upon over repeat trips. The really clever part about this is that after you build a significant following you can start working out deals with the resorts for free accommodation for marketing on your channel increasing your over all profit margin for the trips (you can expand this into brands for free merch for photo shoots building relationships with other luxury brands which would be a draw for the guests. This also makes it harder for someone to copy your concept once you see success). I would guess you would be looking at £10k minimum ($12,100 USD, €11,845) per traveler and around 8 per trip (which actually then means you will require more accommodation for the guests and crew, or is part of the draw staying in the villa with the models?)

So who is your target audience exactly if you had to build a profile for them? Are you looking for wealthy single guys looking for a good time or influencers looking to build a brand? If you give me an outline of what you're looking for I can put together some consumer profiles for you to use when you are generating assets or targeting your marketing efforts. Just please don't turn out to be fire festival 2.0.

I work as a product manager in real life and I love trying to break down business models so this ones super interesting and I see the business potential. How successful have you been at raising seed funding for your company?

You're on the right path, the question is how good is your execution.
10k bro are you joking this is gonna cost way more than 10k. Look at these ticket prices for ONE person to fly to Bali round trip from new york. The clients have to be loaded if theyre paying for 10 models and DJ parties and housing and everything in the experience.

Its a cool idea and I want to see this progress but 10k isnt even keeping the lights on
£10k was a off the top of my head estimation price per person. Considering Bali is cheap it made sense that with 8 guests you would be taking $96k USD to run as your budget for building the brand. To be fair I didn't consider that if a guest is paying this amount they will probably expect business class or higher flights to attend the event. which would eat a lot of the budget (which you could turn into air miles to reduce the costs of future bookings). I also figured the initial clients would be Australian considering OP's Drivers license and how close it is to Bali.

But you could be right, the idea price point depending on all the other costs might be much higher depending on what activities are taking place.
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Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:32 am

This is insanely interesting, best of luck.

I know you're not in the escort business but I saw a documentary 10 years ago about a company that offered guests a private island plus 10-15 women (escorts) to enjoy at your leisure. You'd stay there a week and fuck whomever whenever and at the final day they did a 10-way reverse gangbang lol.

I only vaguely remember specifics but I think it was on Playboy TV, Playboy's failed foray into television. Maybe you can find out what documentary or company it was.
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Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:35 pm

Just some quick stats from my experience with club promoting:

For every 200 girls that I invite to VIP, 20-30 show up. So figure about a 10% attendance rate from girls you invite to an event.
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Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:16 pm

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Just some quick stats from my experience with club promoting:

For every 200 girls that I invite to VIP, 20-30 show up. So figure about a 10% attendance rate from girls you invite to an event.
Yeah, this is a good insight. Would love to pick your brain a bit about your experience with night club promoting. How long did you do it for, how did you find the experience?
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Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:35 pm

The two things are a bit like apples and broccoli

Both are healthy, but they aren't the same.
As what you promote is a unique experience so it's not really a "friday night in da club", although probably you will have the same headaches and "deal with hot girls problems" that @pancakemouse probably has.
I worked over a decade ago in a mid level club for most of my promoter years and with my last one working in the most upper scale one of the area, there were some girls that couldn't even understand how to order a taxi for themselves even though we would pay for it.

Personally, this is better if left managed by another hot girl but with organising capabilities - maybe having a MLTR offering a bit of the shares into it and an allowance? I mean, handling all the business details, the trips details, the girls, I honestly having a headache just thinking about it.
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Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:25 pm

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there were some girls that couldn't even understand how to order a taxi for themselves even though we would pay for it.
This is hilarious 😂
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Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:55 pm

tommygun95 wrote:
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pancakemouse wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:35 pm
Just some quick stats from my experience with club promoting:

For every 200 girls that I invite to VIP, 20-30 show up. So figure about a 10% attendance rate from girls you invite to an event.
Yeah, this is a good insight. Would love to pick your brain a bit about your experience with night club promoting. How long did you do it for, how did you find the experience?
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Nice. I like what you're doing. Creating a business to attract the elite to your life & social circle. Creating a business to also attract the elite is something I want to do after my main business cashflows really nicely for me to hire out & run.

Keeping an eye on this one & will give some of my 2 cents if it may be helpful for you.
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Update:

Finished the website and a pdf info guide highlighting what the first trip will be like. Hopefully, this helps with pitching to the girls, as we were having some trouble with them not understanding the trip. (Mostly because of russian language barrier tbh)

Trying to buy an Instagram profile so that we can start our social media presence with around 10-20k followers. It's proving difficult to find so far. They all have horrible engagement or aren't willing to sell. A few speedbumps along the way, but I think once we get all these things up and firing the recruitment process will be in full swing.
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Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:14 am

AskTheDom wrote:
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I mean, handling all the business details, the trips details, the girls, I honestly having a headache just thinking about it.
If you wouldn't mind sharing, I'd like to read some headache stories that shed a light on hot-girls' psyche.
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Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:07 am

Crisis_Overcomer wrote:
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AskTheDom wrote:
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I mean, handling all the business details, the trips details, the girls, I honestly having a headache just thinking about it.
If you wouldn't mind sharing, I'd like to read some headache stories that shed a light on hot-girls' psyche.
I was referring to the operational part, as there are so many moving components and forward/backward thinking to be done that makes my head spin around (if you look at documentaries about woodstock (69 and 99) or as mentioned Fyre, you see that operations are always the key in these events. In this case we don't talk about thousands of people but still, there are many moving parts for only one person.
About the hot girls, well always depends who you deal with, but in one very short verse I can say: imagine dealing with a toddler.
A spoiled one.

I wish to the OP all best of luck
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Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:18 am

Quick update:

Current Progress: 4/10 girls signed and coming on first trip.

Lost a bit of momentum last week with being sick, but quickly regained progress this week. Reaching out to 10 girls a day now via Instagram and having about a 40% meeting rate. It seems much easier to convince them after meeting in real life, so I can see us hitting the 10 we can take on the first trip within the week. I will keep reaching out after we have filled numbers because I want to be choosey when it comes to what type of girl we bring on the trip, e.g. single, open, fun etc.

Still haven't signed a client for the first trip so shifting some focus to that also.
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Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:19 pm

From 3rd party experiences in a similar situation, the girls will spread the "brand" to other girls that will line up to be part of this ( who doesn't like a free holiday in super luxury?) so I would suggest hammering the other side, the one that actually pay the bills :D
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Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:03 am

Update: 2 weeks until the first trip.

The decision to ramp up the scouting of models has paid off. Committed to DM'ing 6 a day between myself and my business partner. We are now meeting each model for a coffee/ drink in a cafe next to our place and interviewing about 3 a day. It has given us a huge boost in momentum and it looks like we are back on track for the trip first week of September.

We have filled the spots for the models for now, we will turn our focus to finding a really good photographer/ videographer as well as an unpaid intern who will help with logistics. I am going to keep reaching out to 6 a day despite having enough girls for the trip because I think it is great for networking and having more options than we need.

My main focus now is to find a male client/ someone willing to come on the trip to help split the costs.

That is the business update finished. From an inner game and self development point of view; this project has already completely upgraded my mentality when it comes to beautiful girls. It has completely flipped the script for me in terms of interviewing beautiful girls to see if they are good enough for our project. There is zero intimidation from any of the models and if anything my preconceptions of eastern European girls being cold and bitchy have been completely shattered.

I am already seeing this translate to my personal dating in terms of the caliber of women I am talking to and the confidence in which I interact with them.
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