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Gabi
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Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:55 pm
Name: Gabi
Goal: learn investment
Age: 24
Motto: Dn't need to be good all the time,just when needed
Location: France

Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:09 pm

Hey bro, you have an handsome face :

- The jaw and jawline looks good from the front and the sides
- A lean face and your lips are small. it gives a masculine/dominant face
- Really nice cheekbones
- Facial features well proportioned, the nose fit well in your face

And you have really good eyes :
- They are blue
- the upper lid is straight, give masculine output
- lower lid cover most of the white of the eyes
overall they are a mixt of feminin and masculine feature, they look really good and sharp

imo, you don't have a smiling face, more a smirking face.

About your escort thing, i would said go for it ... I believe fear never go away, either you put yourself in a situation where what your fear will never happen or you learn to be more brave. The frustration and the fear of the reaction of being a virgin at a late age (+20) is a real cancer, it block you from wanting sex, being sexual and talking to girls.
First finish my studies. [Done]
Then my own place. [Done]
Finally my best sexlife ! [Ongoing !!!]
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Gabi
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Name: Gabi
Goal: learn investment
Age: 24
Motto: Dn't need to be good all the time,just when needed
Location: France

Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:24 am

On the legal part, just go online on an escort site or just do a trip into an other country
Your friends is right, you should not get yourself involve into this kind of thing until you are mentally and emotionnaly ready for it.

As i said, your eyes have feminine and masculine feature, in a way that you could smile with your eyes, with little to no smile from the mouth (like a smirk, or nothing)
This would make you keep your natural stoic and masculine face , but at the same time make you interresting and welcoming
Eva green do it perfectly
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First finish my studies. [Done]
Then my own place. [Done]
Finally my best sexlife ! [Ongoing !!!]
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Adam
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Name: Adam
Goal: Lose Fat
Age: 34
Motto: Become someone you admire

Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:57 pm

MattsCrib wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:09 pm
It doesn't also help that I've literally asked girls for guidance and they have tried to steer the conversation, something like "one thing is physical looks but another thing is that is you can sing and are cool etc., which sometimes triumphs over looks" which means that... I'm ugly but they don't want to tell it to me?? I don't get it, man...
There's any number of possible reasons, man. Maybe they don't want to seem shallow so they're uncomfortable evaluating a guy's looks. Could be some kind of signaling where they think that caring more about things other than looks makes them a better person. Who knows? Your video isn't loading for me today but it was working yesterday and you look like a normal guy to me. Slightly on the handsome side. Definitely not "disfigured" as you called yourself in a previous post.

Your profile pic makes you look like you've got antennae coming out of your head though lol.
2022 Goals:
(1) Get Abs
(2) Get to 15 lifetime lays (currently at 10)
(3) Move to a new city with lots of single girls - DONE 6/12
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l0vebone
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Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:16 am
Name: RJ
Goal: get throat
Age: 24
Motto: fuck hos get money

Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:26 am

Dude dont get an escort. I couldnt imagine anything that would kill my confidence more than actualizing that I have to pay for pussy.

Go find yourself a nice 4-5/10 and make her your slampig. 99% of people who make posts like you generally have standards that are sitting on an airplane
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l0vebone
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Name: RJ
Goal: get throat
Age: 24
Motto: fuck hos get money

Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:17 am

^ look man, I just read your entire log.

Normally I would never recommend coaching for someone (except in very small situations where you just cant figure it out yourself, but youre close to getting it right) because that's just my personality, but you are a HARD case.

Your entire mindset has to be completely reshaped. You will essentially have to be brainwashed and told what to do every single step of the way.

Take the coaching man. I dont know much about Andys facebook group, but you need 1on1, this cant be a group thing. You need someone that will literally tell you what your next emotion, what your next thought, etc, should be.
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l0vebone
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Age: 24
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Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:41 am

Youre not an ugly dude, youre good looking enough to get laid.

Theres nothing wrong with coaching man. When I dont know what to do in muay thai, I go to my teacher because hes been there before, even though I have 7+ years of experience.

You seem like a really good guy man and I wish you the best, and I hope you get this area of your life under control.
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l0vebone
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Goal: get throat
Age: 24
Motto: fuck hos get money

Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:52 am

just looked at that video dude, yeah youre not a bad looking guy even though you cant see your face clearly. i have no clue why you arent banging one of those girls in your group
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Adam
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Name: Adam
Goal: Lose Fat
Age: 34
Motto: Become someone you admire

Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:41 pm

MattsCrib wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:52 pm
EDIT: You can see my performance at 28 minutes here (I'm the bass and later the guy who does the MJ impersonation lol)
As you can see I'm not that good looking as in pictures. Second from left.

https://sakala.postimees.ee/7171466/lum ... 1xWcrK7hE0
Again, you look like a normal guy. Slightly above average for handsome-ness, and you aren't fat.
MattsCrib wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:59 am
Maybe I'm not bad looking, but it doesn't mean that I'm good looking enough, because then It would've happened already. A lot of it DOES have to do with the fact that I'm extremely skinny and have the body of a lanky 15 year old.
What would have happened already? You would have found a girlfriend that you really like? That shit doesn't just "happen", no matter how good looking you are. If you want sex, you need to actually ask girls out and go on dates. If you want a great girlfriend that you really like, that means you're being more choosy, which means you'll need to go on more dates before you find a girl that you really like who also likes you. You seem to keep assuming that your looks are holding you back, but how many girls are you asking out on dates? Unless you're getting TONS of rejections that you aren't telling us about, the problem is likely with your actions (or lack thereof), not your looks.
2022 Goals:
(1) Get Abs
(2) Get to 15 lifetime lays (currently at 10)
(3) Move to a new city with lots of single girls - DONE 6/12
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Adam
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Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:05 am

Just happened to check in here. I see your post was an hour and a half ago. You doing any better? You ended with plans for tomorrow, so I'm hoping that's a sign that you aren't still thinking about killing yourself.

You've mentioned "maybe" getting some therapy or "maybe" getting some coaching. Dude, if you're having serious suicidal thoughts there's no maybe about it. Get help with someone who can work with you one on one and give you a serious chunk of time. The guys on here want to see you succeed but we can only give you advice from a distance which won't be as helpful as in-person help. You "maybe" get therapy if you think you're a little less happy than you could be. If you're thinking about killing yourself, you stop saying maybe and do whatever it fucking takes to get better.
2022 Goals:
(1) Get Abs
(2) Get to 15 lifetime lays (currently at 10)
(3) Move to a new city with lots of single girls - DONE 6/12
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Greenranger
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Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:09 am
Goal: Get Laid
Age: 19
Motto: compare yourself to the person you were yesterday

Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:05 am

MattsCrib wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:27 am
Edit:

A shit night. Having a suicidal panic attack now again due to self hatred.

I'm so fucking tired of being looked at as a disgusting subhuman. I'm so tired of people telling me I shouldn't even help with work or ill break or I shouldn't run because I'm so weak and look sick. Sometimes when I start falling asleep, all of the visceral disgust reactions I've gotten from girls come back to me, of my ankle bones being visible, girls literally almost panicking about my weight.

Ive tried for TEN years to get my weight fixed. TEN FUCKING YEARS. I've hit the gym, I have visible pecs but I just don't get "big" and am still very boney.

I hate being lied to by guys, friends and family members of "actually looking decent" when girls give me looks like I'm some kind of a non human. How is it even socially acceptable to tell someone that they shouldn't even fucking lift because they'll break.

Girls LIKE me as a person, but we all know that's not enough and I don't have a clue on what to change on my appearance.

Rant over, I always feel slightly better after these attacks.
I'm buying a gym membership tomorrow to a more expensive but open gym
I understand that you have been having a hard time, feeling like a disgusting subhuman, having girls look at you with visceral disgust, and poking fun at your boney figure.

I can relate to that on a personal level, especially the part about loosing sleep due to traumatic flashbacks.

If I may ask, has anyone explicitly said that they find you disgusting?
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Crisis_Overcomer
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Goal: Earn $5,000/month
Age: 33
Motto: Motion beats meditation

Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:28 am

MattsCrib wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:02 pm
Obviously no girls liked me in a sexual/romantic way
Just curious, given your endless sexual experience with multitude of girls throughout the decades (yeah, I'm trolling but in a light-hearted way), what exactly signals to you that a girl likes you in a sexual/romantic way?
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Greenranger
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Goal: Get Laid
Age: 19
Motto: compare yourself to the person you were yesterday

Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:23 pm

MattsCrib wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:43 am
Greenranger wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:05 am


I understand that you have been having a hard time, feeling like a disgusting subhuman, having girls look at you with visceral disgust, and poking fun at your boney figure.

I can relate to that on a personal level, especially the part about loosing sleep due to traumatic flashbacks.

If I may ask, has anyone explicitly said that they find you disgusting?
I've had those "eww" reactions pretty often, even when I'm not even doing anything. There have been some where I've approached a girl.
And when you say "eww", was that ever verbal.

In terms of gaining muscle, "dashedhopes" a bodybuilder on this forum will be able to help you with that.
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Greenranger
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Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:01 pm

MattsCrib wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:44 pm
Greenranger wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:23 pm
And when you say "eww", was that ever verbal.
Yes. It was. One of those instances was literally yesterday.

Greenranger wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:23 pm
In terms of gaining muscle, "dashedhopes" a bodybuilder on this forum will be able to help you with that.
Thanks! I've been to the gym before, however it was months ago, pre-covid.
Oh shit, that sounds fucking rude, I hope that you don't internalize that.

If you need any help with improving your mental health, I have got a few sources you can look.

Have a good day
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l0vebone
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Age: 24
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Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:48 pm

You're not going to get big if you dont eat regardless if you hit the gym. Have you researched things at all or do you spend your days crying about your situation? I'm sorry man but at some point you have to decide to start being the hunter and not the prey.

If you are skinny, on top of what you eat right now, drink 4 liters of milk a day.

I'm literally giving you a cheat code. If you dont do this right now, starting today, its your fault and you only have yourself to blame. I will not feel any sympathy for you if you do not post "today: drank 4 liters of milk and had 6 eggs for breakfast" for the next 7 days. Heres another piece of advice: you may just have to force yourself to drink the 4 liters.

If you do this, I can guarentee you will have results within the WEEK. If you dont do this, I'm checking out of your log. The choice is yours.
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Toast
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Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:35 am

Just adding my 2 cents in here. I have a friend who also struggles with depression, anxiety, terrible self image, goes to a therapist, and has been on all of the antidepressants/benzos across the board. He gets laid more then me, is arguably less good looking then me, is 5 inches shorter, and can talk to chicks like its nothing.

So its totally possible for you to do it as well. Ur not human scum and u need to get that thought out of ur head. Thoughts like that only hold you back. What do you gain from self pity? Nothing. So what if a chick says eww. She's a fuckin bitch and treating other people like that are people you don't need to associate with in the first place. Fuck what other people think about u. Their ideas of who you are mean nothing. What matters is only what you think of yourself. Its cliche to say but if u cant love yourself how can someone else. You got to be your own biggest fan because in the end its only u out there getting shit done.

Depression is no joke, and I hope that you and your therapist can work something out that will help. My buddy's therapist definitely helped him. And I honestly don't think he would be doing as well right now if he didn't address his mental issues.

Create small attainable goals, and stick to them. Being self aware of your situation is the first step. Next think about what you can do to fix it. Who cares if ur skinny. Most fat as fuck guys probably wish they had ur skinny body type and maybe even look at u and are jealous that they're not skinny like you. Its all about perspective.

You're also only 25. U have so many years ahead of you to turn things around. I'm not much older then you but from when I was 25 i was comparing myself to all my friends graduating from college and beating myself up for not getting as far as them. Doesn't even matter in the slightest.
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