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Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:13 am

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~6-700 approaches
Do you remember how many contacts?

Cuz I think you're exchanging at the same rate I am. Which is like 1/6 or 1/7



GJ getting the bj. I think that's a lesson that sometimes the girls federal even long ones aren't always a rejection.


All cuz your cardigan.


Should've posted a pic of your style.
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Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:49 am

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Do you remember how many
nah I don't. probably around 80?

I pretty much looked like this with slightly longer hair
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Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:15 am

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Lessons
I think I was decently forward with trying to push for sex. 3x tying to finger her and getting denied is decent. But towards the end, I probably could have just stuck it in but I didn't wanna do that and ruin the chance of coming at some point later down the road.

Even though she said we should meet up on Saturday that is not a guarantee she will come back. Can still ghost anyway.
Definitely not guaranteed but I'd still count the bj as a victory. It can help to know why a girl doesn't have sex with a period. If she doesn't want you to get grossed out by the blood throwing down a red towel or playing in the shower can help. But other girls just aren't in the mood and you can't do anything about that. Anyway, good job not giving up with her.
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Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:19 am

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Definitely not guaranteed but I'd still count the bj as a victory. It can help to know why a girl doesn't have sex with a period. If she doesn't want you to get grossed out by the blood throwing down a red towel or playing in the shower can help. But other girls just aren't in the mood and you can't do anything about that. Anyway, good job not giving up with her.
Definitely still a victory. Even if she ghosts, doesn't change the fact that i blew a load in her mouth :)

I thought about pushing more and asking if she wanted me to throw a towel down. But in my mind i weighed the options and figured id rather not push just for sex and just settle for a BJ. As well as she suggested another day to meet up when we were in the middle of fooling around.
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Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:06 am

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But in my mind i weighed the options and figured id rather not push just for sex and just settle for a BJ.
I'll call you out on this

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Your goal is to get laid, not get BJs. Since she was receptive and not creeped out, you should have tried 3-30 times to have sex with her (I'm not joking, I've had 2-3 lays with girls on their period, simply because I kept pushing for a long time)
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Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:00 am

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Toast wrote:
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But in my mind i weighed the options and figured id rather not push just for sex and just settle for a BJ.
I'll call you out on this

@Toast

Your goal is to get laid, not get BJs. Since she was receptive and not creeped out, you should have tried 3-30 times to have sex with her (I'm not joking, I've had 2-3 lays with girls on their period, simply because I kept pushing for a long time)
You are definitely correct. In hindsight I should have pushed to have sex. That is the goal.
Not being able to burn the bridge most likely comes from a lack of consistent approaching and ability to get multiple lays whenever i want.

Thank you for calling me out.
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Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:22 am

I think it's a personal judgment call. A BJ is a victory even if you can't +1 your imaginary doesn't-matter-anyway notch count.

I'm all for persistence when going for the lay but I view a period as a legit medical reason to withhold sex. Some girls have spent years telling themselves period-sex is disgusting. Even if you persist and get your +1, she might legitimately regret it afterwards.

Be as non-judgmental as possible, get a towel and put it on the bed (without asking/telling her), assure her you've had sex with girls on their periods before and that you don't mind doing it. If she still doesn't want to, just get a BJ and schedule your next meet right then and there while she's with you.
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Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:22 am

@Holden I'm happy i blew a load in the end so that's a success.

I would say that since she was limiting me and not the other way around it is fine.
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Be as non-judgmental as possible, get a towel and put it on the bed (without asking/telling her), assure her you've had sex with girls on their periods before and that you don't mind doing it.
Thought about doing this in the moment as well but decided not to and just get a BJ
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Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:26 am

Back at the mall. Got there at 4pm which is decent. Approached until 545. was on a positive tilt right off the bat. 2/2 in like 5 min. Ok weird.

got a rejection. Very nice

Next girl was an ambiguously aged asian chick i only saw from behind. Approached.
Hey your cute.
oh hi, thanks :)
how old are you?
24
oh good, i thought u might be 16, hard to tell with the mask
(she laughs)
What are you up to?
nothing much, just going home
oh ok, how about we go chill and get some boba?
ohh idk, I gotta do some stuff later
its ok, we will just go downstairs and get boba
ok sure

Insta date happens. Talk about random shit. Eventually, make the pull for movies.
Walk her out of the mall. Right across the street from the parking lot she says she's gonna catch the bus.

well, i live close, let's just go watch a movie at my house
oh you meant today? Sorry, my English is bad i misunderstood
that's fine, let's go.
oh, I cant I gotta help my friend later
so you have no time now?
no not really
ok lets exchange numbers - We exchange

Im happy with this instadate because i was pushy basically through the whole date and was leading the conversation. Felt naturally aggressive and pushy which is good. Was not conscious of instadate. Just came as a result of being deregulate and forward on the approach.

45 min session around my block as well. Was still on a positive tilt. 3/10 or so
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1/1 today. Only got one approach in cuz i went to the grocery store and saw a cutie Korean chick with some nice milkers on her.

Approached, Called her cute, in the middle of asking what she was up to she interrupted me and said she had a boyfriend. Said we should still exchange and do something casual. She exchanged with no resistance.

Tomorrow I have the same girl who gave me a BJ coming straight over to my place to chill. Looks like it was not a mistake to take it slow.

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Re-occurring problem I keep having is i get complacent when i know i can get laid soon. I need to keep battling this feeling. I want to approach more cuz it really balances out my life. Makes me feel calm and relaxed in life outside of approach. Like i literally feel happier after having a good approach sessions and lining up dates and women.

Maybe I need to make approaching easier, so that its not as much of a task. Like even the 15 min drive and paying for parking downtown is annoying. As im writing this i realize it is a dumb excuse. Some stuff to think about for sure.
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Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:11 am

Went out before I had a girl coming over to approach. CANNOT keep getting complacent after hooking up with a chick. I need to continually fight the cumfort of having a girl to explode into.

Went 0/15ish at the mall and around my house. Was probably closer to 12 if i had to give an exact number.
Wasted 30 min driving to and from the mall. At the mall i was doing good. like 5 approaches in 5 min. and then the volume rapidly declined and only got one more approach in after 10 ish min before calling it and leaving. There were a lot of people at the mall, but a lot of couples and groups of ambiguously aged girls.

Drove home and approached on my block. It was decent volume. Like if i had stayed there initially I may have been able to hit 20/hour. Next weekend i may just do this.

So far it seems like weekends from 5-8 are good on my block
where as mall on the week days are when more women are out and about shopping. Weekday volume at the mall varies from 15-20 per hour.

@Manganiello has been pumping out high volume as of late. its made me think that im not trying hard enough. I should be able to hit 35-40 per session. I just need to stay at a location for longer. In general my sessions at one location last an hour. I need to stay for 2 and really get up to 40 in one session.

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Had the same chick who gave me a BJ come straight to my house. I'm VERY surprised she did not ghost, as well as her saying she would come over Saturday was not just a tactic to promise me sex so i would not keep trying right then and there.

Via text she asked if we should meet somewhere or meet at my place. I said my place and she agreed. She said "ok :)"

She arrives, we just chill, talk a little bit and we drink some sour beers.
Like maybe 15 or so min after she comes over I got for the kiss and it was smooth sailing from there. This chick is probably the most affectionate girl so far. EZPZ lay. We undress and transition to the bed. She starts to give me a BJ again and then straddles me. No hint at all of wanting me to put a condom on so im like ok, lets goooo. Stick it in and have a good time for a bit and then explode in her.

We cuddle for a bit and go back to watching TV on the couch. Basically rinse and repeat this 2 more times and explode in her 2 more times lol.

The last time i had like maybe 30 min before i had to leave for work, We were just about to finish a movie we were watching. So i just started making out with her again and exploded in her like 2 min before i needed to go to work.

Condoms suck lol.

This will be my 3rd Cold approach lay so far.
Estimated # of cold approaches is ~700 at this point.
So its about 1/~150 approaches for me to blow a load. Which I believe is about average
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Estimated # of cold approaches is ~700 at this point.
So its about 1/~150 approaches for me to blow a load. Which I believe is about average

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Damn man, you're out there crushing it with those numbers.
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I felt the ecstasy of cumming in the girl for you. Good job bro!
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Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:15 am

Approach

Drove down a street where I have had success in the past. Volume is subpar. Like maybe 6 encounters per hour if I hit every girl I saw walking the street. Most of them were of ambiguous age as well. Young crowd here. Maybe worth spending 30 min here and getting 5-10 in if I'm lucky.

spent 30 min driving from my house, down this street previously mentioned, and to the mall. Had about 1.5 hours to approach. Feelin pretty good overall mood-wise. Got a few approaches in, mostly rejections. Then i walked outside the mall and encountered a chick who was hyper my type.

Dressed up very well, like Instagram influencer status. young girl probably 20yo from kazahkstan. She was walking towards me and I walked right up to her and stopped her/called her cute. She was super receptive. Definitely orgasmed on the spot cuz of my approach. She was acting cute and didn't have anything to do later. Just said she was going to sephora. Like very responsive to my questions and engaging. Crossing her legs and leaning into me a bit when she answered.

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Due date for school application is not till November. So i have plenty of time to get everything in order. No rush on that front. Studies are going well, but I'm definitely slacking in areas other then doing flash cards and passive immersion. I need to start translating sentences and watching more anime lol. Just it takes a lot of time. 1 hour per day would be good to start. But approach is taking up most of my time outside of work. Gotta figure out a way to study while at work lol.
asked when she was free and she said Wednesday. She also responded to my initial text after we exchanged contacts. 100% means shes gunna ghost when i text her lol.

Didn't push for instadate cuz i had somewhere to be in like an hour. This is the second time this has happened on a Monday. Gotta approach with logistics in mind. Like i need to have at lease 3 hours post approach to go for date/pull/hookup.

3/10 over an hour in and around the mall. When i leave the mall it takes a few min to walk up the block and around the central outdoor shopping area. So time is always wasted there. But oh well. Outdoor approach was good today cuz it was sunny.
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