MakingAComeback wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:18 am
Woman's nature is clear to me: they are actually pretty gross and IMO are a darker and more selfish, manipulative creature than the male. My opinion, respect it. I respect yours.
Hey MAC, I respect your opinion, I'm just worried about the damage it could be doing to your ability to connect with all the lovely women out there who would be lucky to know the extremely impressive man that you are.
I understand your anger and bitterness and low opinion of women, because I used to feel the same way, back when I felt like they had all the power.
What changed and made me more empathetic and understanding towards them was when I realized how weak much smaller and weaker (physically) and more frightened of everything women are than men.
Everyone knows women scream when they see a mouse or a bug or something gross or dangerous, and that they want a man to deal with it, but I actually think that fear and being easily startled/grossed out/overwhelmed is a much bigger part of their lives than men realize.
Knowing that makes me feel grateful to be a man, and like I would never in a million years want trade my place with a woman.
It also makes me feel protective toward them, because being small and weak (compared to men) makes the world a scary fucking place, and it helps me understand why overly sensitive, angry or desperate men are so scary to women - unlike my default reaction, which is an instinct to help these men, often because I see so much of my past (and often current) self in them.
Probably the best way I know of to sum it up is the opposite ways a woman I was dating and I reacted to Jordan Peterson: when he got choked up talking about trying to encourage men or when he got really angry talking about patriarchy and toxic masculinity, I saw a compassionate, intelligent, sensitive-but-well-meaning man who is doing his best to make the world a better place...
But she got nervous, because she saw something more like this:
Manly Cockfellow wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:28 pm
We had a pretty simple dinner date, with only two parts worth mentioning:
The first part was regarding how women see men.
She had just told me about a night where she and a girlfriend were walking to their car after dinner, when a guy who had been walking on the other side of the street with his head down looked up, saw them and basically started sprinting their way from across the block... needless to say they were scared and asked a few nearby guys to stand with them till he left (he asked them for change or something). Even though this young woman is almost 6 feet tall, and does motocross, she was still fully aware that this average guy had the strength to overpower her if he chose to.
The best way I've heard of for men to understand what this must be like is to imagine yourself in a gay bar full of nothing but NBA and NFL players, all of which could easily hold you down and do whatever they wanted to you and your body if they chose to. Even though most of them will probably be pretty nice, all it takes is one creep who doesn't care about you and just wants to use your body for his pleasure... and he's so much bigger and stronger than you there's nothing you can do to stop him.
So that was a long way of getting to the reason this first part is worth mentioning. After telling me that story, she said something I thought was a brilliant summary of what it's like to be a woman interacting with a man, "Imagine if every once in a while when you opened a cereal box it exploded in your face. Even though you know most cereal boxes are fine, you'd still be very wary of them, because you could be dealing with one of the exploding ones".
Combine this with the gay bar full of potentially volatile NBA/NFL players, and you can understand why men make women nervous at first (before they get to know you!), and why women get anxious when a man gets too emotional (oh God, if he loses control and turns on me there's nothing I could do to stop him).
Last thing I'll say is this:
when women are selfish and manipulative, it's most likely coming from a place of fear, not power, and probably deserves more pity than resentment.
