Manga flake adventures: Date + Flake

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Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:24 am

Radical wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:44 pm
As long as everyone follows @Holden and stops putting the movie on, cool
I am proud of my small vinyl collection. Listening to an album lets you talk and drink while escalating. It's super fun and not just putting on 'chill lofi youtube stations' Also if for some reason theres a pause in the escalation flipping an album to side 2, or a new album can be a mini freeze out.

Also @Manganiello applause!!! Getting laid once is awesome twice is nice but thrice!!!! I'm lucky once a month and thats doing tinder premium, super boosts, boosts, feeld, hinge and posting/ responding to personal ads on r4r subreddits. Congrats man 3 is awesome and who knows maybe a few of those could backslide and double dip becoming members of your Harem lol. Sorry I fantasize about Harems a lot.
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Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:08 pm

In the beginning, when I was tracking stats, I needed on average 63 matches (or likes, can't remember) to get one date.

In my case about one girl out of 20 or so gives me her number these days. It's interesting how you're getting loads of them.

And if I'm having a date, I'm pretty much guaranteed to get laid, unless the chemistry is really off.

By improving your appearance further I'm guessing the date -> lay conversion will improve. A shirtless pic could help you screen harder. Plus having alcohol involved most likely improves your odds as well. Now that I think about it I can't remember the last lay that didn't involve us having a glass of wine.

I'm finding that girls are being flakier than usual right now. Maybe because it's the beginning of the school year and girls are overwhelmed.

As for Kino... I pretty much never touch girls before kissing them, so I can't say I'm sold on it being effective.

Edit: If you find that chatting with girls on tinder is tiresome (I certainly did), you can deviate from Andy's template and cut to the chase on the first message that you send girls. @Lostcause was the guy who inspired me to try that, and it seriously reduced the amount of chatter going nowhere for me. Fewer girls reply, so you waste less time asking the girl for her hobbies etc... before finding out she's not after casual sex.
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Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:07 pm

You know Andy never used to advise the 4 message chat template back in the day

When i first started getting coaching he had me do:

‘Hey you’re sexy….’
Her response
‘Cool, im not looking for anything serious but if you’re down for a drink…’

And yeah it worked to a degree. Try the super up front approach if you are sick of the messaging
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Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:07 pm

@Radical did you find that increasing the length of the conversation improved closing rate + got you more lays?

I only used Andy's long template on my first ~200 girls before switching to a shorter version and didn't notice any change in that regards, but the sample size is small.
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Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:21 pm

@Reservoir I cant really say unfortunately

I got more success with Andys more recent template but I significantly improved my tinder simultaneously so thats flawed data to me

I know both work in my case

Edit: also i screen for my type of girl (rave girls/travel girls) and their response to the fun question is helpful
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Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:29 pm

Radical wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 7:14 am
3 lays of 6 dates in 2 weeks is good yes. Great start

You seem a bit down though, is it cause you are looking at the ratios?
Hmm I think it's cuz I feel like it's not going to stay this way. It's like a latent worry.
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Calgary has a 1m+ population from what i can see, you will have some down periods on the apps (most of us do) but thats a big enough city imo for regular online success
Ok good. I was concerned about that.

Reservoir wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:08 pm
In the beginning, when I was tracking stats, I needed on average 63 matches (or likes, can't remember) to get one date.


@Reservoir thanks. I was hoping you'd chip in. that ratio is close to mine. I'd say. Idk why I'm getting so many numbers. Could be any number of reasons: Culture, city, I'm just calibrated well in text, idk. But it's not really about the contact exchanges to me it's more about maximizing dates with Dtf girls.




Thanks @Dewm if it wasn't for these guys on the forum I wouldn't have gotten laid. I can confidently say that.
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Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:39 pm

Sept 23

Just posting so I don't lose track of today's stats.


21 matches
2 #s
0 dates scheduled

2 boosts.

Girls are agreeing to the number than being a fucking hassle to schedule something with. That's been this week's theme.

One girl said only one time during the next two weeks and it has to be outside the city.



Anyway took more pics. I'll upload them later. Got to get to work.
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Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:43 am

Sept 23
New lay with a 27 y.o.


Almost too tired to write this.

Lay Report


almost a flake

She sent me a text early this morning about her coworker having a medical emergency. Which I assumed meant a flak. But no .


the date

Went for drinks. Longer date maybe 60 minutes of just drinking.

She grilled me about being vegan. Then we talked about what we like in bed.

She actually suggested going back to my place. 2 seconds before I was gonna mention it (literally).


my place

We got back to my place.
No movie this time @Radical

Sat on the couch. Talked for a few minute.


escalation
Told her to move closer. She did.

And it escalated the same way almost all the other ones did.

Put her leg over mine.
Made out.
Take clothes off.
Foreplay.
Then we smashed.

It was really intense this time. Even more intense than the girl last week.

Choking, I was like damn how hard do I have to squeeze? She loved it.

I think rough would be the wrong word. Just forceful and emotional maybe is the right word.

I did not mind.

Good 15 minutes of foreplay than probably 45-60 minutes of smashing. I got tired. Couldn't cum. I was pretty fucking hard the whole time tho.


And again tons of noise. I like it, but at the same time the walls are paper thin. So idk my stance kn that quite yet.

Afterward we talked about BDSM afterwards.. I've never tried. She's done it quite a bit.

We talked about meeting up again.
But we'll see.


1 day short of being 3 girls on a week... Which might be vain but a part of me wants to do it.


OLD stuff today
1 new date setup
2 or 3#s I think.
Probably 20 matches.

1 OKish boost netting 2 matches



Also me and @goldfish took some sick ass picks I'll share when I get time. this was definitely the best photoshoot so far.


Will share later.
Last edited by Manganiello on Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:55 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:47 am

sheesh bro you're killing it
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Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:44 am

Manganiello wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:43 am
And again tons of noise. I like it, but at the same time the walls are paper thin. So idk my stance on that quite yet.
Just make the neighbors jealous brutha.
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good shit dude keep doing your thing
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Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:56 pm

Sept 25

Two dumb dates.
But got a Korean girls number working at a store.


First girl - was outside the city. So no logistics.


Second girl - boring and on the relationship track.


I wanted to see what happens when I don't screen as aggressively. So both these girls I ended up wasting time on and no pulls.

I'd rather have gamed than go on those dates.



SWIPING

Neglected this a bit

- 1 new date scheduled for next week.
- 1 number
- 9 matches (lowest so far)
- 20 likes - Maybe I'm just being picky?


1 boost. 20 likes is fairly low. I havent really swiped or boosted. So maybe that's why.

...

Feels

Thing in most happy about yesterday is actually the Korean girls number. Even though there's a 95%+ chance it goes nowhere.


I have one date possibly today. She's cute but I 90% expect her to flake. And I kind of want a quiet day off. Haven't had one in a month.
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Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:56 am

Sept 25

2 new dates scheduled
3 #s
18 matches

1 cancel
3 boosts



Sept 26

1 new dates scheduled
7 #s (not bad)
17 matches

2 boosts





cold approach

1/4



I don't know who to contact @Radical. Any idea why pictures aren't uploading directly to the forum? Issue only seems to have started this weekend. Could just be a me thing but I think Goldfish had the same issue.
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Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:40 am

Looks getting ELITE in that new profile pic. Congrats on the recent lay too.
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Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:07 am

@Manganiello ongoing issue with server. Andy is working on it
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