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- Radical
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@Manganiello Ah yeah i could do that in announcements
Whats the laycount year so far?
Whats the laycount year so far?
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7.
1 from cold approach in July
Other 6 are from last month lol
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Sure. Just lemme know whenKillYourInnerLoser wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:35 pmDude. What a month. Wanna do a podcast talking about it?
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Oct 9
2 dates + midnight invite
Ok so first of all. I'm tired af.
summary
- date with vegan fit chick. Pretty cute. Her personality was so negative I didn't even bother pulling
- date with hot engineer girl Really hot. Wanted to bang her so hard. Asked her back twice. No dice.
- midnight invite hot girl from Bumble invited me straight to her place. I went. She was fucking wasted. Got really sexual at the start. But she was an emotional mess. Left only with a makout. That was a super interesting experience I want to fill in the details about
- got one of Calgary's football cheerleaders #s ... That feels cool.
- Probably got 7 or 8 #s as well.
Fucking tired. I'ma sleep.
2 dates + midnight invite
Ok so first of all. I'm tired af.
summary
- date with vegan fit chick. Pretty cute. Her personality was so negative I didn't even bother pulling
- date with hot engineer girl Really hot. Wanted to bang her so hard. Asked her back twice. No dice.
- midnight invite hot girl from Bumble invited me straight to her place. I went. She was fucking wasted. Got really sexual at the start. But she was an emotional mess. Left only with a makout. That was a super interesting experience I want to fill in the details about
- got one of Calgary's football cheerleaders #s ... That feels cool.
- Probably got 7 or 8 #s as well.
Fucking tired. I'ma sleep.
- Manganiello
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Oct 11
1 Lay + Saturday's story
1 Lay today.
3 dates, but one cancel.
Little bit more detail on Saturday Night.
4pm Date + Lay
Pretty standard.
Boba, I refused to buy for her.
It was actually snowing, but she was unvaxxed so we went for a walk.
Did the movie pull within 30 minutes. Easy yes
Went back & put on Squid Games
Didn't watch it. Escalated within 1 minute of putting it on. Which is fairly fast for me.
Makeout.
Awesome BJ
Doggy + Cowgirl
Probably abour 30 minutes
Then got some vegan ice cream
Wrapped it up cuz I had to rush to meet the other girl.
Value:
Girls who say "NO HOOKUPS"?
We hooked up, and her profile says "NO HOOKUPS" on it. But still did it.
I asked her why she had that in her profile and still hooked up all she said was "I have sexual needs"
DO GIRLS PLAN IN ADVANCE TO HOOKUP?
I asked her if she knew we were hookinh up before she met me, she said "Ya it was obvious in what you texted" (Thank you Screening)
MY PROFILE STILL NEEDS IMPROVEMENT
She said she almost flaked (Which she almost did) because her sister thought my profile was fake (Photos were too good LOL), and there were no selfies.
6pm Date - No Pull
Bar - 90 minute convo. Girl was super receptive but no pull. Didn't even ask, because she said she had to go.
VALUE: - Bars are inferior
So... I think Bars are going to be a thing of the past now. Why?
2/2 Boba
2/8 Beer (longer bar dates)
5/10 coffee
(Give or take numbers)
As you can see places where the date is short I tend to pull a lot more. Not necessarily hookup. But PULL
Goin Fuckboy - Saturday Night Story
I'm just writing this because this was so awesome, and I want to remember it.
I'm doing my last rounds of messaging girls on Tinder. I get a message on Bumble from a cute looking 33 y.o. saying to come over.
I ignore it.
She then texts me her number for me to call.
Ok. I call.
She's definitely drunk. And distraught about something. And like horny maybe.
But then she wants me to come over with my guitar and put my hat on backwards.
Instead of the last call (where I stayed up 3hrs coaching a girl through some life stuff). I refused to engage in her emotions, and just said "Ya ok text me the address"
I drive over (5 minutes away)
She's living in some high end condo (Her dad's a high level oil exec apparently, but not around).
I get into the lobby, she meets me down.
And she's legit the hottest 30+ girl I've seen. Honestly guys.
Before she says hi I pick her up off her feet. Hold her up and make her use the legs to open the door.
Concierge is just kinda looking at us. We get into the Elevator and talk about what turns us on.
So this is like 20 seconds into the "date"
We get into her dad's condo. Which is quite nice. And I tell her to fix me some wine. She does.
Then we go to the couch, I can see some police report on the table.
She starts talking about her abusive BF, but I start feeding some goldfish crackers into her mouth as she's trying to talk.
I challenge her to blow the cracker into my mouth from hers. She fails a few times, so I just bring her closer and make out.
This is maybe 3 minutes into the date.
She's laughing.
Then she starts crying about how her sisters husband is cheating on her. And then goes into her BF.
The whole time I'm thinking let's get the topic onto sex.
So I listen to her (sort of, don't offer any advice).
And then we start making out again, somehow.
But then she flips back into crying.
And then she says she's been coping with porn.
So I ask her, what kind of porn do you like?
"Wait are you just here to fuck me".
I look her dead in the eyes and say "ya pretty much".
She didn't like that.
And then she got closed off.
And then I left maybe 5 minutes after that. Hugged her.
Never seeing her again that's for sure.
She's going to rehab tomorrow.
That was honestly a fun night, that I can never tell to any of my family or coworkers, but it was fun AF, and I can tell you guys.
That was me just going full fuckboy, and it worked kind of.
@Crisis_Overcomer thinks I could've hooked up. And he might be right had I had more game, and listened and just massaged her the whole time.
I think she was in such a fucked up place there was nothing there. And I got as far as I could've.
I honestly don't know. I think next time I'll try what crisis says and just be there for her vocally, but from a physcal standpoint keep touching her in a very calibrated escalation. I feel like Scotty could've fucked her, but that was a bit to advanced for me. Possibly.
Cool stuff:
That's 3 new girls in the last week
7 New girls in the last 31 days
And about 20 flakes or so lol.
Cool.
Oh I had a date with a girl in a wheel chair last night. She thought I was going to murder her (literally), so she setup the whole date where I couldn't. But she realized I was chill and we played cards and rockband. She said she's only looking for a friend. MAYBE - I thought. I actually enjoyed chilling with her. She was cool. I think I might see her again next week just to play pool.
1 Lay + Saturday's story
1 Lay today.
3 dates, but one cancel.
Little bit more detail on Saturday Night.
4pm Date + Lay
Pretty standard.
Boba, I refused to buy for her.
It was actually snowing, but she was unvaxxed so we went for a walk.
Did the movie pull within 30 minutes. Easy yes
Went back & put on Squid Games
Didn't watch it. Escalated within 1 minute of putting it on. Which is fairly fast for me.
Makeout.
Awesome BJ
Doggy + Cowgirl
Probably abour 30 minutes
Then got some vegan ice cream
Wrapped it up cuz I had to rush to meet the other girl.
Value:
Girls who say "NO HOOKUPS"?
We hooked up, and her profile says "NO HOOKUPS" on it. But still did it.
I asked her why she had that in her profile and still hooked up all she said was "I have sexual needs"
DO GIRLS PLAN IN ADVANCE TO HOOKUP?
I asked her if she knew we were hookinh up before she met me, she said "Ya it was obvious in what you texted" (Thank you Screening)
MY PROFILE STILL NEEDS IMPROVEMENT
She said she almost flaked (Which she almost did) because her sister thought my profile was fake (Photos were too good LOL), and there were no selfies.
6pm Date - No Pull
Bar - 90 minute convo. Girl was super receptive but no pull. Didn't even ask, because she said she had to go.
VALUE: - Bars are inferior
So... I think Bars are going to be a thing of the past now. Why?
2/2 Boba
2/8 Beer (longer bar dates)
5/10 coffee
(Give or take numbers)
As you can see places where the date is short I tend to pull a lot more. Not necessarily hookup. But PULL
Goin Fuckboy - Saturday Night Story
I'm just writing this because this was so awesome, and I want to remember it.
I'm doing my last rounds of messaging girls on Tinder. I get a message on Bumble from a cute looking 33 y.o. saying to come over.
I ignore it.
She then texts me her number for me to call.
Ok. I call.
She's definitely drunk. And distraught about something. And like horny maybe.
But then she wants me to come over with my guitar and put my hat on backwards.
Instead of the last call (where I stayed up 3hrs coaching a girl through some life stuff). I refused to engage in her emotions, and just said "Ya ok text me the address"
I drive over (5 minutes away)
She's living in some high end condo (Her dad's a high level oil exec apparently, but not around).
I get into the lobby, she meets me down.
And she's legit the hottest 30+ girl I've seen. Honestly guys.
Before she says hi I pick her up off her feet. Hold her up and make her use the legs to open the door.
Concierge is just kinda looking at us. We get into the Elevator and talk about what turns us on.
So this is like 20 seconds into the "date"
We get into her dad's condo. Which is quite nice. And I tell her to fix me some wine. She does.
Then we go to the couch, I can see some police report on the table.
She starts talking about her abusive BF, but I start feeding some goldfish crackers into her mouth as she's trying to talk.
I challenge her to blow the cracker into my mouth from hers. She fails a few times, so I just bring her closer and make out.
This is maybe 3 minutes into the date.
She's laughing.
Then she starts crying about how her sisters husband is cheating on her. And then goes into her BF.
The whole time I'm thinking let's get the topic onto sex.
So I listen to her (sort of, don't offer any advice).
And then we start making out again, somehow.
But then she flips back into crying.
And then she says she's been coping with porn.
So I ask her, what kind of porn do you like?
"Wait are you just here to fuck me".
I look her dead in the eyes and say "ya pretty much".
She didn't like that.
And then she got closed off.
And then I left maybe 5 minutes after that. Hugged her.
Never seeing her again that's for sure.
She's going to rehab tomorrow.
That was honestly a fun night, that I can never tell to any of my family or coworkers, but it was fun AF, and I can tell you guys.
That was me just going full fuckboy, and it worked kind of.
@Crisis_Overcomer thinks I could've hooked up. And he might be right had I had more game, and listened and just massaged her the whole time.
I think she was in such a fucked up place there was nothing there. And I got as far as I could've.
I honestly don't know. I think next time I'll try what crisis says and just be there for her vocally, but from a physcal standpoint keep touching her in a very calibrated escalation. I feel like Scotty could've fucked her, but that was a bit to advanced for me. Possibly.
Cool stuff:
That's 3 new girls in the last week
7 New girls in the last 31 days
And about 20 flakes or so lol.
Cool.
Oh I had a date with a girl in a wheel chair last night. She thought I was going to murder her (literally), so she setup the whole date where I couldn't. But she realized I was chill and we played cards and rockband. She said she's only looking for a friend. MAYBE - I thought. I actually enjoyed chilling with her. She was cool. I think I might see her again next week just to play pool.
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Read Andy's tinder guide front to back. However, part 3 of his tinder guide has the answers you seek.
@Manganiello the sex-focused life leads us weird places lmao. I've been in an extraordinarily similar situation but I sat there like a chump for 4 hours listening to all her life problems until 3am - I honestly feel bad for chicks that use random tinder guys (??) for emotional support. Persistence and finesse are probably key in these situations. Not like it's easy to get a bunch of data on these super-specific situations hah.
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@Hakan
https://killyourinnerloser.com/tinder-g ... e-template
The text template screens them
"I'm not looking for anything serious is the screening message". - most girls get it. Some won't.
So my thinking was...
She's gonna ghost anyway.
I'm never seeing her again.
I'm coming over so she can use me for emotional support.
The situation is transactional from the get go
So I might as well try and hookup so both of us get what we want.
I tried. And had a pretty aggressive makeout with a hot girl. But I think that's all that was gonna happen.
This girl was not right in the head.
https://killyourinnerloser.com/tinder-g ... e-template
The text template screens them
"I'm not looking for anything serious is the screening message". - most girls get it. Some won't.
Ya it was odd because I had an almost identical situation literally 2 nights earlier (no joke!) And the result was I talk to a girl for too long. Nothing happens then she drops off the map.Juhboi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:32 pm@Manganiello the sex-focused life leads us weird places lmao. I've been in an extraordinarily similar situation but I sat there like a chump for 4 hours listening to all her life problems until 3am - I honestly feel bad for chicks that use random tinder guys (??) for emotional support. Persistence and finesse are probably key in these situations. Not like it's easy to get a bunch of data on these super-specific situations hah.
So my thinking was...
She's gonna ghost anyway.
I'm never seeing her again.
I'm coming over so she can use me for emotional support.
The situation is transactional from the get go
So I might as well try and hookup so both of us get what we want.
I tried. And had a pretty aggressive makeout with a hot girl. But I think that's all that was gonna happen.
This girl was not right in the head.
- Manganiello
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Oct 13 Flaked
She cancelled with a paragraph explaining how she has to talk to people first.
Didn't even respond.
Haven't done any tinder for 2 days.
Got back into it again.
Boosted x3. Picked up about 36 likes from that. But majority were not worth matching.
Got maybe 6 #s last night. But I think 3 of em are outside the city so...
2 dates today. One is with the cheerleader who is guaranteed to flake.
And the other is with a filipino.
Both of them are for boba.
Anyway gotta go to work.
She cancelled with a paragraph explaining how she has to talk to people first.
Didn't even respond.
Haven't done any tinder for 2 days.
Got back into it again.
Boosted x3. Picked up about 36 likes from that. But majority were not worth matching.
Got maybe 6 #s last night. But I think 3 of em are outside the city so...
2 dates today. One is with the cheerleader who is guaranteed to flake.
And the other is with a filipino.
Both of them are for boba.
Anyway gotta go to work.
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Oct 14
Flake + Date
Cheerleader flaked.
Had a date with 4'8"? Filipino girl.
Filipino girl was pretty cute.
Bisexual.
We talked a lot about what we like/wanna try.
Went for the pull but she said she had to go to bed earlier and immediately suggested another time. (I think that's good?)
Tentative date for Monday at 6:30.
Mmmaybe.
Trying to shore up leads/dates for the weekend. Have maybe 1 tomorrow. And maybe 1 on Saturday.
I'd feel better with 2 confirmed on each day.
Which has been more normal tbh. But I feel like this week is a bit slow.
===
Thoughts:
I just wanna bang a lot of girls.
But I also feel apathetic about messaging girls sometimes. It feels like work.
I wanna go to Korea still. But the idea of scaling back the dates in favour of working more does not appeal to me currently.
But it's on my radar and I need to be deliberate. Like is there a point when I get my fill with banging girls? And can give more time to working towards Korea? Or am I always gonna want to bang girls and just need to make a high volume dating life work with saving up for a move.
I need to be proactive about this.
Question is. How can I be proactive with this goal while sinking tons of time and money into getting laid?
If you guys have experience with this or just passing remarks I'd be happy to hear them.
Anyway. Gonna boost again and then. Sleep
Flake + Date
Cheerleader flaked.
Had a date with 4'8"? Filipino girl.
Filipino girl was pretty cute.
Bisexual.
We talked a lot about what we like/wanna try.
Went for the pull but she said she had to go to bed earlier and immediately suggested another time. (I think that's good?)
Tentative date for Monday at 6:30.
Mmmaybe.
Trying to shore up leads/dates for the weekend. Have maybe 1 tomorrow. And maybe 1 on Saturday.
I'd feel better with 2 confirmed on each day.
Which has been more normal tbh. But I feel like this week is a bit slow.
===
Thoughts:
I just wanna bang a lot of girls.
But I also feel apathetic about messaging girls sometimes. It feels like work.
I wanna go to Korea still. But the idea of scaling back the dates in favour of working more does not appeal to me currently.
But it's on my radar and I need to be deliberate. Like is there a point when I get my fill with banging girls? And can give more time to working towards Korea? Or am I always gonna want to bang girls and just need to make a high volume dating life work with saving up for a move.
I need to be proactive about this.
Question is. How can I be proactive with this goal while sinking tons of time and money into getting laid?
If you guys have experience with this or just passing remarks I'd be happy to hear them.
Anyway. Gonna boost again and then. Sleep
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If you're like me (t̶a̶l̶l̶,̶ ̶h̶a̶n̶d̶s̶o̶m̶e̶,̶ ̶w̶e̶l̶l̶-̶h̶u̶n̶g̶) you'll feel satisfied after 2-3 months. Then getting a new girl will be just a "good thing to have". Most guys are like that.Manganiello wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:51 amLike is there a point when I get my fill with banging girls?
In business, there's always a pool of leads that are on the lookout for offers and respond fast. When you exhaust that pool, things slow down.Manganiello wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:51 amHow can I be proactive with this goal while sinking tons of time and money into getting laid?
My hunch is that you're still enjoying the good pool of OLD leads right now. So, you're going out with girls who are active daily on the apps. Eventually, instead of 1 date/day you might get something like 1 per 3-4 days. This will help you save money for Korea.
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Lets see @Crisis_Overcomer
If this rate of matches and dates keeps up im moving to Calgary over Vancouver when i get my visa
If this rate of matches and dates keeps up im moving to Calgary over Vancouver when i get my visa
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I don't want to psycho-analyze you too much but I think you need to figure out what you want. Increase lay-count or lock down a few girls and have a harem. If you want to keep banging new chicks, there is no way around doing the "work."
Even for me. I have a pretty high lay count despite not even actively trying to increase it or to reach a certain number. It's just a byproduct of my quest to find 3 hot girls to have an MLTR with. So even then there is still a lot of work and messaging and setting things up and dealing with flakes.
The only way that I know of, to have girls effortlessly, is to be famous, become a micro-celebrity in your social circle scene, or to have girls refer other girls to you. These things are much harder than just doing the regular work in the first place, so you need to figure out if you want this trade-off.
I guess you could outsource OLD and texting to a VA or whatever, though I don't know anyone who ever actually did this.
Even for me. I have a pretty high lay count despite not even actively trying to increase it or to reach a certain number. It's just a byproduct of my quest to find 3 hot girls to have an MLTR with. So even then there is still a lot of work and messaging and setting things up and dealing with flakes.
The only way that I know of, to have girls effortlessly, is to be famous, become a micro-celebrity in your social circle scene, or to have girls refer other girls to you. These things are much harder than just doing the regular work in the first place, so you need to figure out if you want this trade-off.
I guess you could outsource OLD and texting to a VA or whatever, though I don't know anyone who ever actually did this.
Laycount: 100
My Log
Primary goal:
- Rotation of three girls (DONE)
- Regular threesomes (DONE)
- A foursome
My Log
Primary goal:
- Rotation of three girls (DONE)
- Regular threesomes (DONE)
- A foursome
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@Holden
@Thebastard did that for a bit
I considered it but I got my app usage is down to like a minimum and I dont see much need
Regards not knowing what you want, I think thats completely fine in the beginning. If you just rack up lays by the time you get to 30ish you should have some idea of what you really want
@Thebastard did that for a bit
I considered it but I got my app usage is down to like a minimum and I dont see much need
Regards not knowing what you want, I think thats completely fine in the beginning. If you just rack up lays by the time you get to 30ish you should have some idea of what you really want
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@Radical
@Holden
@Crisis_Overcomer
I think I'm getting more interested in retention.
Number of lays is cool and all but it's annoying when you go through a wave of flakes like this week.
That's more short term.
Long term - I know I want to move.
I've been so deep in the process I kind of forget why I'm doing this stuff. It's not a complaint. I'm just saying being so focused kind of made me forget the bigger goals.
... As far as things slowing down here.
Idk. Maybe. I'm pulling roughly the same matches as the first week.
Oct 15 + 16
Three flakes.
Which means 5 out of 6 girls cancelled this week. Feels like I'm eating shit. But then I remember I had 6 dates scheduled over the last 4 days. So. Probably just a wave.
@Holden
@Crisis_Overcomer
I think I'm getting more interested in retention.
Number of lays is cool and all but it's annoying when you go through a wave of flakes like this week.
That's more short term.
Long term - I know I want to move.
I've been so deep in the process I kind of forget why I'm doing this stuff. It's not a complaint. I'm just saying being so focused kind of made me forget the bigger goals.
... As far as things slowing down here.
Idk. Maybe. I'm pulling roughly the same matches as the first week.
Oct 15 + 16
Three flakes.
Which means 5 out of 6 girls cancelled this week. Feels like I'm eating shit. But then I remember I had 6 dates scheduled over the last 4 days. So. Probably just a wave.
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