Manga: Shisha date no pull
- Manganiello
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Oct 5
Date at 5:30 today.
Good convo.
She had a short window of time
Pulled anyway
Made out.
She pulled away and then looked at her watch.
Ended a few minutes later.
I'm probably not seeing her again tbh.
Whatever.
5 dates lined up tomorrow.
Lots of overlap so unless they flake I'm gonna have to reschedule some girls.
Today: I asked 5 other girls to meet at 7:30. But they all ghosted
....
30 new matches
6 #s
3 new dates scheduled
1 pull
0 hookups
Date at 5:30 today.
Good convo.
She had a short window of time
Pulled anyway
Made out.
She pulled away and then looked at her watch.
Ended a few minutes later.
I'm probably not seeing her again tbh.
Whatever.
5 dates lined up tomorrow.
Lots of overlap so unless they flake I'm gonna have to reschedule some girls.
Today: I asked 5 other girls to meet at 7:30. But they all ghosted
....
30 new matches
6 #s
3 new dates scheduled
1 pull
0 hookups
- Radical
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@Manganiello
I just learnt my lesson too many times from not screening in my first 6 months or so of going hard at this
Girls that wanted to 'make me wait'
Girls that seemed to want a proposal on the 3rd date
Girls that did sleep with me fairly early on but then turned out to be jealous pyschos (my 'girl tried to break into my hostel room to have a screaming match' story comes from one of these)
Girls who 'didnt know what they want' - i think these might be the worst cause they give you some expectation that things might happen and then they flake out of nowhere before like the 3rd date
Honestly i'll take a cute girl who knows she just wants something casual and will be an easy first date vs a hot mess who plays games
2nd dates
I pitch them in person and then confirm logistics over text
I just learnt my lesson too many times from not screening in my first 6 months or so of going hard at this
Girls that wanted to 'make me wait'
Girls that seemed to want a proposal on the 3rd date
Girls that did sleep with me fairly early on but then turned out to be jealous pyschos (my 'girl tried to break into my hostel room to have a screaming match' story comes from one of these)
Girls who 'didnt know what they want' - i think these might be the worst cause they give you some expectation that things might happen and then they flake out of nowhere before like the 3rd date
Honestly i'll take a cute girl who knows she just wants something casual and will be an easy first date vs a hot mess who plays games
2nd dates
I pitch them in person and then confirm logistics over text
- Manganiello
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Ok got it.
So do you try to hookup on the first date?
And are you inviting them straight to your place on the 2nd date? Or is it a coffee/drinks thing?
My thinking now is:
If there's time, I'll bring her back on the 1st date. If there's not, I'll schedule a 2nd one.
- Radical
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Typically on 1st date its
1. invite back to mine
2. if rejected pitch 2nd date but kind of loosely - no exact time or place, more get her to tell me a free evening
3. solidify plans over text later that night or next morning
Not gonna lie its super rare i need to go to the 2nd date. I've got screening and the general vibe down at this point, so unless she's just ignored the content of my screening messages (which happens, you'll get girls who want relationships turning up after saying they are cool with casual...morons) this isnt necessary. I did go through a phase of pushing sex back to the 2nd date on purpose to see if it affects retention but for me it didnt really
1. invite back to mine
2. if rejected pitch 2nd date but kind of loosely - no exact time or place, more get her to tell me a free evening
3. solidify plans over text later that night or next morning
Not gonna lie its super rare i need to go to the 2nd date. I've got screening and the general vibe down at this point, so unless she's just ignored the content of my screening messages (which happens, you'll get girls who want relationships turning up after saying they are cool with casual...morons) this isnt necessary. I did go through a phase of pushing sex back to the 2nd date on purpose to see if it affects retention but for me it didnt really
- Manganiello
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Oct 6
2 hookups today
Cute AF asian
Besides the Korean this was the cutest girl I've hooked up with.
Half Irish and half chinese.
Went for boba.
Smooth convo. She was cool. And extremely nerdy.
Easy Pull. Kind of learnt from yesterday to ask her how much time she has.
How much time do you have?
I got time
You wanna watch a movie
Sure.
I really like these bi girls for making life easy.
So we get back. Put on a show.
5 minutes I escalate.
Make out.
Clothes off
Eat her out.
BJ
She asked for a condom but we never used it.
Missionary
Cowgirl
BJ
Tried to do doggy but I couldn't get hard enough. (Lesson take Cialis and don't be cheap)..
It's funny how girls think I'll blow my load in 20 minutes but I can go for like 2 hours and still not explode.
Anyway.
Walked her to the bus station.
She said she was swiping right on 1 guy for every 50 lefts.
Which was interesting.
I got very ONS vibes from her.
I'll text her again. But I expect 0. Like 99.9% chance I'm getting .
Virgin Girl
Girl from last week. She was still nervous..made out got her shirt off and got her to touch my dick a bit. But that was it.
This one barely counts. I can see how virgins are too much of a time sink... Had to end the date early to meet the Asian.
Didn't get much done on tinder. Cuz I was busy
cancelled 2 dates
So this was a bit of a noob mistake on my end. But I had 2 dates within 90 minutes of the Asian girl. So it meant when she showed up I had to cancel the other 2.
One was an Only Fans girl with like 170k followera on FB. but honestly I wasn't that attracted.
And the other was actually a legit cute girl. I should've pushed the date back 30 minutes instead of cancelling cuz I could've had 3 dates and potentially another lay had I done that.
Oh well.
Feel bad for cancelling on girls actually.
But then I remember they've done that to me 2 bazillion times..so w/e.
I just wish I gave more warning.
Thoughts
... Not a bad day.
Just really glad I banged the Asian.
That was my one goal today.
2 hookups today
Cute AF asian
Besides the Korean this was the cutest girl I've hooked up with.
Half Irish and half chinese.
Went for boba.
Smooth convo. She was cool. And extremely nerdy.
Easy Pull. Kind of learnt from yesterday to ask her how much time she has.
How much time do you have?
I got time
You wanna watch a movie
Sure.
I really like these bi girls for making life easy.
So we get back. Put on a show.
5 minutes I escalate.
Make out.
Clothes off
Eat her out.
BJ
She asked for a condom but we never used it.
Missionary
Cowgirl
BJ
Tried to do doggy but I couldn't get hard enough. (Lesson take Cialis and don't be cheap)..
It's funny how girls think I'll blow my load in 20 minutes but I can go for like 2 hours and still not explode.
Anyway.
Walked her to the bus station.
She said she was swiping right on 1 guy for every 50 lefts.
Which was interesting.
I got very ONS vibes from her.
I'll text her again. But I expect 0. Like 99.9% chance I'm getting .
Virgin Girl
Girl from last week. She was still nervous..made out got her shirt off and got her to touch my dick a bit. But that was it.
This one barely counts. I can see how virgins are too much of a time sink... Had to end the date early to meet the Asian.
Didn't get much done on tinder. Cuz I was busy
cancelled 2 dates
So this was a bit of a noob mistake on my end. But I had 2 dates within 90 minutes of the Asian girl. So it meant when she showed up I had to cancel the other 2.
One was an Only Fans girl with like 170k followera on FB. but honestly I wasn't that attracted.
And the other was actually a legit cute girl. I should've pushed the date back 30 minutes instead of cancelling cuz I could've had 3 dates and potentially another lay had I done that.
Oh well.
Feel bad for cancelling on girls actually.
But then I remember they've done that to me 2 bazillion times..so w/e.
I just wish I gave more warning.
Thoughts
... Not a bad day.
Just really glad I banged the Asian.
That was my one goal today.
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- Manganiello
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Oct 7
Date with hot girl + no oull
Definitely the hottest girl I've had a date with.
Like just objectively hot. 9/10 maybe?
Anyway..
So she was boring. Hard to talk to.
I felt off and awkward at the start. Not present. But I got myself grounded and after me basically doing all the conversational heavy lifting. She opened up and had a "nice chat".
Did a soft pull by saying how much time she had.
"I gotta go... Work..long week.. etc."
Aight.
We actually kept talking for awhile.
And had a good convo.
Ended abruptly with her saying she had to go. Saying goodbye and then leaving to go to the washroom instead of walking out with me.
Then she unmatched.
Like I don't get it.
Honestly.
The only difference between this date and the last two was that I wasn't 100% at the start of the date. Everything else. Pretty much the same.
Maybe I'm missing something. It felt like a good date. But who fucking knows man.
I'm dealing with alien creatures rn.
The more I date girls the more I see as bridge burning as the right move. Cuz I really don't think there's much differently I could've done there. Like at all.
It's like
You sleep with a hot girl.
Ghosts.
Sleep with an average girl.
Ghosts.
Have a boring date with a hot girl
Ghosts
Have an exciting date with a hot girl
Ghosts
Have great sex.
Ghosts
Have mediocre sex.
Ghosts.
Bang for 90 minutes.
Ghosts
Bang for 20 minutes.
Ghosts
Have good chemistry
Ghosts
Have horrible chemistry
...
Etc etc etc.
The only thing Ive noticed is if I can have a good time with the girl and she isn't a bland af. Ill hookup. Not guaranteed. But I've never hooked up with a boring girl.
Maybe that will change.
Tired rant over.
...
Tryna message girls this late is annoying
5 or 6 #s today?
Idk too tired to look lol.
4 OKish boosts.
Date with hot girl + no oull
Definitely the hottest girl I've had a date with.
Like just objectively hot. 9/10 maybe?
Anyway..
So she was boring. Hard to talk to.
I felt off and awkward at the start. Not present. But I got myself grounded and after me basically doing all the conversational heavy lifting. She opened up and had a "nice chat".
Did a soft pull by saying how much time she had.
"I gotta go... Work..long week.. etc."
Aight.
We actually kept talking for awhile.
And had a good convo.
Ended abruptly with her saying she had to go. Saying goodbye and then leaving to go to the washroom instead of walking out with me.
Then she unmatched.
Like I don't get it.
Honestly.
The only difference between this date and the last two was that I wasn't 100% at the start of the date. Everything else. Pretty much the same.
Maybe I'm missing something. It felt like a good date. But who fucking knows man.
I'm dealing with alien creatures rn.
The more I date girls the more I see as bridge burning as the right move. Cuz I really don't think there's much differently I could've done there. Like at all.
It's like
You sleep with a hot girl.
Ghosts.
Sleep with an average girl.
Ghosts.
Have a boring date with a hot girl
Ghosts
Have an exciting date with a hot girl
Ghosts
Have great sex.
Ghosts
Have mediocre sex.
Ghosts.
Bang for 90 minutes.
Ghosts
Bang for 20 minutes.
Ghosts
Have good chemistry
Ghosts
Have horrible chemistry
...
Etc etc etc.
The only thing Ive noticed is if I can have a good time with the girl and she isn't a bland af. Ill hookup. Not guaranteed. But I've never hooked up with a boring girl.
Maybe that will change.
Tired rant over.
...
Tryna message girls this late is annoying
5 or 6 #s today?
Idk too tired to look lol.
4 OKish boosts.
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Gotta find him that chubby goth chick that's he's searching for
- Manganiello
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Got a text at midnight asking if I can come over.
I text her:
"I could ya. Where do you live?"
She phoned me:
So her dad's dying and she just needed someone to talk to.
Ya I did ask myself over midway in. We somehow talked about sex.
But the convo was three hours. It's 3:45am and I have to work in 4 hours.
This has happened X2 already:
A dtf seeming 30 year old girl.
Is hot.
Really opens up to me.
I listen.
Try and make a pull work.
And get a no.
Like im not going to change listening to a girl who's trying to deal with a parent dying...
But I'm kind of wondering if the way I talk puts me in that box of being a nice boyfriend. ...
And I don't think that's a good thing.
I'm still so fucking new to this.
But I'm getting that impression.
I text her:
"I could ya. Where do you live?"
She phoned me:
So her dad's dying and she just needed someone to talk to.
Ya I did ask myself over midway in. We somehow talked about sex.
But the convo was three hours. It's 3:45am and I have to work in 4 hours.
This has happened X2 already:
A dtf seeming 30 year old girl.
Is hot.
Really opens up to me.
I listen.
Try and make a pull work.
And get a no.
Like im not going to change listening to a girl who's trying to deal with a parent dying...
But I'm kind of wondering if the way I talk puts me in that box of being a nice boyfriend. ...
And I don't think that's a good thing.
I'm still so fucking new to this.
But I'm getting that impression.
- Toast
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Maybe its some form of intricate shit test to see if ur actually as alpha and fuckboy as ur profile makes you seem. Like testing the waters if ur really there just to fuck or if ur actually BF material
Honestly idk either tho, That's just a thought
Honestly idk either tho, That's just a thought
- Manganiello
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Oct 8
2 dates - rescheduled one cuz they overlapped... Went with the girl who was more dtf seeming.
Got some drinks.
Good convo
Went for a soft pull.
Nothing
Went for a hard pull - also nothing.
She paid which was nice.
Walked out.
This girl will probably ghost.
Other date just tryna reschedule.
I actually like the other girl more. She just wasn't as dtf it seemed.
It's becoming hard to read the girls dtf level from online.
Anyway.
I wrote a longer post whining about first world problems.
So I'll stop that.
I think today is the mark for being one month online. Results have been crazy. When I get the time and energy I'll write a proper reflection post with stats.
And just so you guys know. I am still getting rejected most of the time.
2 dates - rescheduled one cuz they overlapped... Went with the girl who was more dtf seeming.
Got some drinks.
Good convo
Went for a soft pull.
Nothing
Went for a hard pull - also nothing.
She paid which was nice.
Walked out.
This girl will probably ghost.
Other date just tryna reschedule.
I actually like the other girl more. She just wasn't as dtf it seemed.
It's becoming hard to read the girls dtf level from online.
Anyway.
I wrote a longer post whining about first world problems.
So I'll stop that.
I think today is the mark for being one month online. Results have been crazy. When I get the time and energy I'll write a proper reflection post with stats.
And just so you guys know. I am still getting rejected most of the time.
- Radical
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Some top tier hustle
Wish i could like do a highlight of the month thing or something for the best threads, sticky-ing seems a bit ott
What is your concrete goal btw?
Lay count or relationship or what?
Wish i could like do a highlight of the month thing or something for the best threads, sticky-ing seems a bit ott
What is your concrete goal btw?
Lay count or relationship or what?
- Manganiello
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I actually like that idea. You could create a unique thread. Sticky it. And then just edit the first post to link to a new thread every month.
...Goal was originally relationship but now I'm beginning to not want that.
Concrete goal is lay count. I wanna see if I can get to 50 lays in a 12 month period. Or even like 40 in a 6 month period.
Other than that it's to travel and sleep around in a different country.
Then possibly settle down.
That's why Korea is still so appealing to me. I think it would be awesome to live a life where primarily my life revolves around approaching and lining up online dates in a different country.
Recent success has delayed all my travel goals. But they're still there.