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Manganiello
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Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:02 am

June 24 4/20ish


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- 4 numbers
- 20 approaches or so
- 2 seriously hot girls
- I'm pretty sure I'm getting a reputation at this mall. :evil:


Overall
I feel gold about it.
- I've been to this mall so many times. I'm surprised I havent run into the same girl twice yet.
- like literally the same H&M I've been in there probably 60+ times since January. Going in. Buying nothing. Talking to girls.
- The approach reputation feels like the natural step I have to take to become more fluent in approaching. So I'm 100% ok with it. And it feels like Anti-AA.
- also got called cute twice. What's crazy is that I've called 500+ girls cute so far and this is the first day they called me cute back. I feel like such a noob for saying that. But it felt good. And it happened twice.


Notable interactions
I approached one girl as she was walking back to work. She had some serious attitude. "What are you doing approaching girls that are 18?" I went out of my way to approach in front of her store. Got a number out of it too. :evil:

First number I got was in plain view of the girl who rejected me seconds earlier. Just like @offwego wisdom. Smooth isnt necessarily efficient. Your best off talking to every girl in a store.


Lessons
- So a lot of sales principles tie over. @Toast was kind of wondering if they did. But I just felt in my gut they did so I wanted to test them.
- they definitely apply. The thing with sales is you want to be a very present/have good energy but then have a powerful sense of authority and command the interaction. Thay definitely applies here. And I'd go as far to say Social Momentum, and deregulation is just that. Saying whatever you want and being present


- I think the one mall might actually suck. It's been bad for the last couple weeks. Which means there might just be ONE good venue here.

- First time I approached at 2:30pm during a weekday. That was the best volume I've seen on a weekday ever (not including friday). Thay same mall was noticeably quieter when I went back around 6.


It felt fun today. Lots of growth. Decent conversions. Not a bad day by any stretch.
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Move to Toronto
Improve Game

Past Goals:
AA program (viewtopic.php?f=42&t=40)
Lost vCard Day Game(viewtopic.php?p=17087#p17087)
OLD Log and Lays viewtopic.php?f=5&t=889

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How I got 9 lays in the first 6 weeks on Tinder
viewtopic.php?p=23227#p23227

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Manganiello
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Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:43 pm

June 25 - 1/3


- 3 approaches 1 #
- Worked late.
- Had no plans to approach. But I drove by a mall and thought why not?
- Mall was closing soon and despite being busy it was desert for hot girls. Maybe 4 approachable girls.

- It was actually really hard at the start. One of the hardest days to get going. Maybe cuz I had no intention to approach that day.


the approaches

Got one girl in. She was 160. Super old.
Next one was maybe 40ish.
There qas girl I really wanted to approach but she disappeared. Saw her later go into the store. Super hot. Got her number.

overall
Social momentum was really easy to get despite how hard it was when I started. I think it came from the difficulty of the approaches. Like because it was difficult. I got momentum easily.

Went for drinks with my cousin.
Actually regret it because I could've used that time to approach girls in the evening. I guess I could've when he was around.

I haven't seen him in like a year. It was a bit of a shock. Because the old conversations we would have I felt incredibly bored with. It was like "oh yeah, I used to be like this."
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Goals
Move to Toronto
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Past Goals:
AA program (viewtopic.php?f=42&t=40)
Lost vCard Day Game(viewtopic.php?p=17087#p17087)
OLD Log and Lays viewtopic.php?f=5&t=889

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How I got 9 lays in the first 6 weeks on Tinder
viewtopic.php?p=23227#p23227

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RogerRoger
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Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:59 pm

Manganiello wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:43 pm
Went for drinks with my cousin.
Actually regret it because I could've used that time to approach girls in the evening. I guess I could've when he was around.
^You say it yourself.

It's a level up, sure. Took me a while to get comfortable approaching around friends. Still leave some opportunities hanging in those situations. But no excuses for the guy who goes to only one mall :P
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Manganiello
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Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:08 pm

RogerRoger wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:59 pm
Manganiello wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:43 pm
Went for drinks with my cousin.
Actually regret it because I could've used that time to approach girls in the evening. I guess I could've when he was around.
^You say it yourself.

It's a level up, sure. Took me a while to get comfortable approaching around friends. Still leave some opportunities hanging in those situations. But no excuses for the guy who goes to only one mall :P

Agreed.
All those small situations add up.

It was a conscious decision I made not to approach when I was walking with him. Dumb decision now that I think about it.

Next time I will do atleast 1 approach with a friend around. Just to break that barrier.
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Move to Toronto
Improve Game

Past Goals:
AA program (viewtopic.php?f=42&t=40)
Lost vCard Day Game(viewtopic.php?p=17087#p17087)
OLD Log and Lays viewtopic.php?f=5&t=889

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How I got 9 lays in the first 6 weeks on Tinder
viewtopic.php?p=23227#p23227

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Manganiello
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Fri Jul 02, 2021 3:39 pm

July 1

Favorite Approach + Lay

Hot Asian.
Couldn't speak English.
I said my name.
She said something back.
I asked what are you up?
She mumbled something.
What?
"Brandon."
Yes that's me. What is your name?
Mumbling.
What?
Mumbling.
Ok im going that way. I put my phone in her hands for her to fill out.

That one was cool.

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Landed in Toronto + Met @honeybadger
Did aggressive approaches



- @honeybadger had approached 5 girls his entire life. And he did 16 in ~ 2hours when we went out together. (I'll let him give a further update on that if he wants).
- I did about 20 or so approaches.

Got 0 for the first 7. Then went on a tear, getting 6 numbers out of 12 or so girls.
Was very pushy. Half the girls said no at first.


What was noticeable different today vs. Every other day. Besides Toronto just being infinitely busier than Calgary. Was that I wasn't just approaching girls. I was thinking how much do I want to smash this girl? With every girl. Didn't do that before. And the energy felt very different on the approach. A lot more forward I guess.
Last edited by Manganiello on Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:35 pm, edited 4 times in total.
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Goals
Move to Toronto
Improve Game

Past Goals:
AA program (viewtopic.php?f=42&t=40)
Lost vCard Day Game(viewtopic.php?p=17087#p17087)
OLD Log and Lays viewtopic.php?f=5&t=889

-

How I got 9 lays in the first 6 weeks on Tinder
viewtopic.php?p=23227#p23227

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Manganiello
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Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:13 pm

June 3

Update
9/30-35.

Kind of a blur of a day tbh.

Took 3 hours to get going.

Day went like this
1st hr - 2
2nd hr - 0
3rd hr - 2
4th hr - 15ish
5th hr - 15ish

Long time out. But really all of that came in the last 90 minutes.
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Move to Toronto
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Past Goals:
AA program (viewtopic.php?f=42&t=40)
Lost vCard Day Game(viewtopic.php?p=17087#p17087)
OLD Log and Lays viewtopic.php?f=5&t=889

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How I got 9 lays in the first 6 weeks on Tinder
viewtopic.php?p=23227#p23227

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Manganiello
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Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:34 am

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Move to Toronto
Improve Game

Past Goals:
AA program (viewtopic.php?f=42&t=40)
Lost vCard Day Game(viewtopic.php?p=17087#p17087)
OLD Log and Lays viewtopic.php?f=5&t=889

-

How I got 9 lays in the first 6 weeks on Tinder
viewtopic.php?p=23227#p23227

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Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:49 am

Nice man! Keep it up

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Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:02 am

Ok this shit was eye opening I need to step up my daytime approach numbers. Nicely done
Shoot for 150 Approaches a month day time
Day 30 no pmo
stick to a schedule
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Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:43 am

Manganiello wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:34 am
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Damn, organisation on point. Might have to do the same when I eventually start getting numbers
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Manganiello
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Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:12 pm

Jacobpalmer123 wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:02 am
Ok this shit was eye opening I need to step up my daytime approach numbers. Nicely done
Ya it's a lot easier to do in a big city.
But even in Calgary I typically do 15 or so each session.

@TimmyTurner it's hard to keep track without it. I barely remember any of the girls after I'm done the day.
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Past Goals:
AA program (viewtopic.php?f=42&t=40)
Lost vCard Day Game(viewtopic.php?p=17087#p17087)
OLD Log and Lays viewtopic.php?f=5&t=889

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How I got 9 lays in the first 6 weeks on Tinder
viewtopic.php?p=23227#p23227

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Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:01 pm

Manganiello wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:34 am
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That's awesome! Your dedication to approaching is really impressive, keep it up and don't quit. I'm just curious (and ik this is probably too outcome oriented) but how many of the numbers that you've gotten have responded and eventually gone out with you? The only reason I ask is just to get some realistic expectations. I've never had anyone respond to me who I cold approached (even though I've gotten numbers) except for one girl who turned out to be a lesbian. But obviously my sample size is extremely small.
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Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:24 pm

@SamJ_

I wouldn't rely on anything I say here.

I know you probably still will look for a ratio. So I'll just give it to you and advise you to take it with a massive grain of salt.



So in Calgary I got 30 #s over 6 weeks. 1 date. The only thing we did was kiss.

Most girls do not respond to any texts.

Here in Toronto I've gotten 16 #s. 5 or 6 are talking in text.
1 confirmed a date.
1 said yes. But haven't confirmed timed and place yet.

It's still a very small sample size. I'm not even relying on it.

I've seen multiple things in Mike's chat.

1 out of 10 #s will go on a date.
But I've also seen Marcin say 1 # out of 20-30 will meet.


I think the lesson in all of this is to approach a lot more.

City may be a factor in girl's willingness too. Calgary had much worse numbers.

In Calgarg I was getting 1 out of 5 or 6 approaches into a #.

Where as Toronto it's closer to 1 out of 3 approaches convert.


But again small sample size.
And I'm still extremely new.
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Move to Toronto
Improve Game

Past Goals:
AA program (viewtopic.php?f=42&t=40)
Lost vCard Day Game(viewtopic.php?p=17087#p17087)
OLD Log and Lays viewtopic.php?f=5&t=889

-

How I got 9 lays in the first 6 weeks on Tinder
viewtopic.php?p=23227#p23227

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Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:33 am

B, you're a legend. Love reading these and glad you're enjoying Toronto.
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Manganiello
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Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:59 am

July 31

2/15


I haven't updated really anything from Toronto or July.

Toronto was awesome and yes got laid from cold approach. See my lay report thread.
July was me working a lot and contemplating where I want to move to.
I'm in Vancouver this weekend.


summary
- Mostly approached because I was feeling insecure about the low volume from the last 2 weeks.
- I also wanted to see how Vancouver venues compare to Calgary and Toronto
- I don't expect these to go anywhere. I might leave Vancity tomorrow.
- Felt awesome to do a real session again.


notable interactions
- Girl blatantly ignored me. Pulled a shirt up to look at it. Blocking me out as I was talking to her. Then she walked away without eye contact or saying anything. First time I've been ignored that obnoxiously.

- After I talked to another girl in the same store. I screwed that approach up hard. Like one of the worst approaches ever. I probably couldve gotten her number if I wasn't being so unsure. She was Korean. And I was trying to like throw Korean sentences at her but it ended up making the conversation really weird. Its really funny comparing that approach to the one I did with other Korean in Toronto that resulted in a lay. In Toronto I was like peak of my game. And then here I was rusty af

It got better tho.

- first number was a girl from Osaka. That was cool. Probably cuz she was from Osaka. I talked to her for maybe 3 or 4 minutes about English vs. Japanese.

- 2nd number was from another Asian. I don't think she had an accent. Pretty negative reception and she refused to exchange twice. But at that point I got rid of the rustyness and was approaching like my normal self.

- One of the last approaches was with a girl who was giving me good eye contact. From Ottawa, she was going hiking tomorrow with her cousins who were meeting her like any second. That was interesting because I said: Well I would say we should meetup but we're both leaving. And then she made like a direct reference to her place. Saying if we met all of her cousins would be there. I feel like a more experienced of myself could have a chance there.



So that's it.
Felt great to have a real session again
Asians Represented all but 2 approaches. I guess I have a thing for them now.

Vancouver's great but not as good as Toronto. I'd say.

@CainGettingLaid there's your update.
Last edited by Manganiello on Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:39 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Goals
Move to Toronto
Improve Game

Past Goals:
AA program (viewtopic.php?f=42&t=40)
Lost vCard Day Game(viewtopic.php?p=17087#p17087)
OLD Log and Lays viewtopic.php?f=5&t=889

-

How I got 9 lays in the first 6 weeks on Tinder
viewtopic.php?p=23227#p23227

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