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Rags2Bitches
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:19 pm

Manganiello wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:34 pm
Next time be more candid. Hiding that stuff and giving me nice + helpful advice is not as good as brutally honest feedback. That hinders my progress. In the end being kind and brutally honest with someone are the same thing.

I had a good idea of what to aim for in a profile, probably why it's been working. But ya you don't need to hide anything. Best things I've done in my life are when people call on me to do better.

Seriously thanks for the help tho.
i’m pretty new to the forum and don’t know what everyone’s tolerance for criticism is— would hate to inadvertently discourage someone or send them into a tailspin.

you’re right though. i guess it’s psychologically easier to write a “you’re on the right track, make xyz changes” vs “this is complete trash, start over” post but that’s just me being a little bitch.

i appreciate the feedback
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:23 pm

Rags2Bitches wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:19 pm
Manganiello wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:34 pm
Next time be more candid. Hiding that stuff and giving me nice + helpful advice is not as good as brutally honest feedback. That hinders my progress. In the end being kind and brutally honest with someone are the same thing.

I had a good idea of what to aim for in a profile, probably why it's been working. But ya you don't need to hide anything. Best things I've done in my life are when people call on me to do better.

Seriously thanks for the help tho.
i’m pretty new to the forum and don’t know what everyone’s tolerance for criticism is— would hate to inadvertently discourage someone or send them into a tailspin.

you’re right though. i guess it’s psychologically easier to write a “you’re on the right track, make xyz changes” vs “this is complete trash, start over” post but that’s just me being a little bitch.

i appreciate the feedback
That's fair.


Giving practical advice is great, you seem good at that. I'm just saying that if someone is miles off, it's better to let them know that vs. giving the impression that they're close.
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:35 pm

I've always been harsher on guys not trying than guys getting things a little wrong with the technical side

@Rags2Bitches you can nail guys for getting technical shit wrong to balance this out
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:49 pm

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Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:23 pm
I think just saying someone is miles off vs giving the impression that they're close would be more beneficial is all.
gotta wrap this up cause it got pretty off topic but just to clarify— i only thought you were miles off after that very first blurry round of photos.

i commented in your log after you posted the second round. those pics were much better and i didn’t sugar coat any of that feedback
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:18 pm

Congratz with the tinder lay!
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:27 pm

You're not wasting time! Congrats on the lay.

With some chicks there's more chemistry than with others, and I find that it affects boner quality.
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Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:46 am

KillYourInnerLoser wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:40 pm
Crisis_Overcomer wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:02 pm
Over 1,000 likes are guaranteed to make any girl wet.

Yeah I regularly show girls the red font of my forum username.

"See that? That means I'm the admin."

Instant wetness


spray.jpg



Dude....





NEW PIC
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WORKS!!!
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Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:18 am

Sept 11 - Day 5


+ 4 #s
+ 11 matches
+ 19 likes today

No new dates scheduled tho. Trying to work it out.



Tinder
3 #s
8 Matches
13 likes
2 Boosts (7:15 and 8:30) 5 and 6 likes respectively.

Hinge
0 #s
0 likes
Messaged until I couldn't. Still need to get premium.

Badoo
1 new match
Convo didn't really go anywhere. Still might.
2 other conversations from yesterday that went absolutely nowhere. They live too far away.
Lots of time wasters here. LOTS

Bumble
1 Number
1 Match (er I guess convo)
3 likes
I think I like Bumble. Girls seem a bit higher quality here.
Still don't know how it works, like is there a point to paying to see who likes me?


Fruitz
Lolz @Master, theres less than 20 girls on Fruitz here.
Somehow got 1 match
Bought a premium monthly subscription, so that's a very expensive match.



Veggly
Vegan App
It's a small base here. I messaged every cute girl in close distance so who ever that like is doesnt fit the bill.
Got 1 like, but no match. So whoever it is, it didn't meet my swiping criteria.

Cold Approach
1/1 (not including this in the online number count)
Cafe approach. It was basically me telling myself I can (A) approach this girl or (B) sit here and be a bitch.
Anyway for now I'll put non-legit approach sessions here. Last 2 days were me just approaching while doing other stuff.


OVERALL
Day 5 - Running Total
11 numbers/~100 matches
130-140 likes
8 Boosts used.

Had 3 dates lined up this morning, but one just texted to reschedule. So 2 now.
And then 4 #s I'm trying to schedule.

Seems like I'm running into an availability problem.
Work and then holding down a time while a girl waits to respond.

I'm tired. Felt like I've been doing nothing but texting and referencing Andy's guide the last 2 or 3 hours. and I have less dates scheduled at the end of all of that.
Rags2Bitches wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:49 pm
i commented in your log after you posted the second round. those pics were much better and i didn’t sugar coat any of that feedback
Ok awesome. Appreciate that.

@Relentless thanks dude
@Reservoir chemistry was actually good. I just wasn't super attracted to her.


ALSO:
Weighed in at 164.8 this morning. Lowest weigh in ever. Need to be able to say that each week.
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Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:35 am

Manganiello wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:18 am
I'm tired. Felt like I've been doing nothing but texting and referencing Andy's guide the last 2 or 3 hours.
I know it's kinda obvious, but make sure your keyboard has good predictive text. I don't even have to type half the time, saves me so much time. I'm on android and use swiftkey fyi
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Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:19 am

jackBruh wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:35 am
Manganiello wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:18 am
I'm tired. Felt like I've been doing nothing but texting and referencing Andy's guide the last 2 or 3 hours.
I know it's kinda obvious, but make sure your keyboard has good predictive text. I don't even have to type half the time, saves me so much time. I'm on android and use swiftkey fyi
Yeah, this is just my .02 but I think this is a good way to keep things efficient. For messaging girls online, I have the whole tinder/hinge script from Andy's guide copied on my phone. I just copy/paste where needed and add in a sentence or two. For texting numbers I got online, I just ask text them one or two messages before asking if they want to meet up for drinks/coffee on "X" day.
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Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:07 pm

BDG-95 wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:19 am
jackBruh wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:35 am

I know it's kinda obvious, but make sure your keyboard has good predictive text. I don't even have to type half the time, saves me so much time. I'm on android and use swiftkey fyi
Yeah, this is just my .02 but I think this is a good way to keep things efficient. For messaging girls online, I have the whole tinder/hinge script from Andy's guide copied on my phone. I just copy/paste where needed and add in a sentence or two. For texting numbers I got online, I just ask text them one or two messages before asking if they want to meet up for drinks/coffee on "X" day.

That's pretty much what I do as well.

I think it's just deviations where the girl will say something odd. And I think "wait what did Andy do here?"

It will get quicker.

Thanks @jackBruh , I'll check it out.
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Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:07 am

Sept 12
Day 6


Date cancelled, unmatched.
Bummed about it. I was excited when she confirmed cuz she was fkn hot. Definitely my type.
So it makes sense I'm bummed. There's a relationship between excitement and disappointment.

4 dates scheduled. 1 pending. They're far off... 3+ days away.
So I'm not expecting a whole lot. Tried to book sooner, but nothin worked out.

Just like Cold Approach, rejection is the majority of the experience.
Same range of hotness in the net. Mostly average girls with a few ugly ones and a few hot ones.
Need a quicker Way of writing this stuff up


46 likes and a bunch of matches (12 of those likes came from a 9pm boost, and no ones responded yet)

Tinder
Likes - 24
Matches - 15
# - 1
Boosts - 2

Hinge
Likes - 2
Matches - 2
# - 0
STILL NOT PREMIUM

Bumble
Likes - 13
Matches - 9
# - 1
PREMIUM for 1 Day to see what it does
THOUGHTS: Bumble still kickin ass. Seems like most girls talk once you match them. Premium may not be the worst idea here. One Number I got was looking for something ongoing. Which is fine. So long as we don't LTR. But this might be my noobish perspective thinking this.

Hilly - New One
Few likes, from people across the country...
Waste of time imo.

Badoo - Still sucks
Likes - 7
Matches - 6
# - 0
The conversations go nowehere on Badoo. Absolutely nowhere.

OVERALL
Running Total - Day 6

180 or so Likes
130 or so Matches
13 #s
2 Flakes
1 Girls gone on Dates with
1 Lay




EDIT: Here's some pics of the convos
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getting flaked
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Dumb Match
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Trying to go for something quick.
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I'm tying to be a bit quicker cuz all of my dates are scheduled 3+ days away. Which isn't good. And I had this conversation from Bumble yesterday so I'm thinking I could probably just suggest a time faster.
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Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:58 am

Rags2Bitches wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:00 am
MakingAComeback wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:05 am
Well done man :)

I think OLD will work for you, so you should dive RIGHT in and get the most out of it. Your stats are encouraging. Do you know I used it for 3 months, did 2 boosts every day, 300 messages on Hinge a day stuff like that, and you already have 10x the matches and traction I got. As such, I think you need to make OLD a staple. Some guys it works for, I think you are one.

Keep hammering,
MAC
lol fuck offff. i have a lot of respect for you and you have 5x my work ethic, but come on. “some guys it works for” 😂

about a week ago i was ranting about the forum and talking shit to Radical about how @Manganiello has a long road ahead cause that first round of pics he posted was awfullll. i downloaded some of them and tried to edit them and got discouraged.

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note, i didn’t talk about you cause i thought his situation was harder. then he took 10x better pics, edited them, got laid and is killing it online.

sending ____ number of messages may feel like work but it’s not actually getting you anywhere. what moves the needle in OLD is taking new photos. get after it
Thanks man, this is an important point, and I totally understand.

I will shred more weight, which I have been doing believe me pics this week, and then I'll take another round of pics. We'll see what happens with the new ones.

I'll keep improving them too, but yeah I put OLD on the backburner about 2 weeks ago and now just focus on cold approach. I have 15lbs to lose now, which is bad ass because it was 50lbs when I started here (:O), so when the scales show up at 200lbs, we'll go through the process again - I will make it work.

Keep hammering,
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Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:19 pm

Good fucking job Manganiello! Fucking Proud of you! Tons of lays ahead! Sucks that fruitz isnt so popular where you are at, it prob is a quebec thing lol. I got the same problem with hinge here. Keep grinding!
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