The picture quality when uploaded to Tinder

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Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:53 pm

I am referring to this article:



We all know that Tinder makes aggressive compression when the picture is uploaded.

The article says that in order to preserve the best quality, the picture should be cropped to 7:10 and uploaded in the highest possible resolution in this ratio. No need to shrink down pictures, just full resolution and quality from export.

How do you upload the pics to Tinder in order to preserve the highest possible resolution?
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Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:07 am

Yeah, it's obvious to me that you should upload pics in full resolution instead of resizing them first and then uploading.

We already had a discussion in another topic that FaceApp degrades picture quality too much already, so when using this app, you're already downgrading your pictures quality-wise.

Actually, I don't know who thought it was a good idea to give a low-resolution version to Tinder, as if they wouldn't apply their resizing and JPEG compression if the photo is already "light" enough.

In any case, I wouldn't mind so much this "problem" as it doesn't really matter in the end; everyone gets the same treatment from Tinder, so just upload the best quality you have and forget about it.

On another note, I can't help but react to the guy who wrote this saying that there is no noticeable difference between JPEG quality 90 and 100 from Luminar (this slider isn't standardized, every software has its own "compression scale" btw): bullshit, when compared side-by-side it's not hard to see a quality loss. I'd say to export in quality 95 if you want to save some disk space, otherwise quality 97 or 98 for the best results.
Quality 99 and 100 are stupid to use because there's barely any difference visually but the file size is severely increased...
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Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:01 pm

The article claims that compression is run anyway, even if you upload a picture in resolution 600 × 848 (in the article is a resolution 640x800. I google it, and the resolution should be 600x848, but I do not have a Tinder account, so I can't confirm it) and the size is less than 100kB.

The best quality should be achieved when you crop the picture to Tinder aspect ratio 600:848 = 0.70754... (I have pictures that have a resolution of 4000 x 6000 from my photo shooting, so if I want to preserve the Tinder aspect ratio, I should upload it in a resolution of 3600x5088) and upload it from the mobile device and not from the web app.

I am using only Adobe Photoshop, which has a quality scale from 1 to 7. When the picture is exported in 6, it has a size of around 4Mb, and when the picture is exported in 7, the size is around 12Mb, so 6 is a reasonable option for exporting.
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Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:24 pm

Honestly, I wouldn't even bother to adjust the aspect ratio... Besides, I seriously doubt there is a difference in treatment if you upload from the phone app or from your PC.
This article gives no proof since the link to the comparison pics is dead, and it was written by a guy who can't even spot the difference between a Luminar export at 90% and 100% quality... So allow me to doubt his expertise, even if I agree with his point of just uploading pics in the highest resolution.

Otherwise, if you want to have your JPEG pics in truly high quality, you should use export in quality 7 as 12 MB is a perfectly reasonable size for a 24 Mpix photo.
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Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:42 pm

When you upload a picture that is not in the Tinder aspect ratio (you can wiggle the photos a bit left/right in the 'cropper,') Tinder crops it, and maybe it triggers some shitty conversion that fucks your pictures (it is my theory). Maybe pre-cropped pics avoid it.
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Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:18 pm

I have restored my old fake Tinder account and did my experiment.

I have uploaded two different pictures to Tinder from my android device.

The pictures were pre-cropped to a Tinder aspect ratio of 8:10, and the format was set to JPG.

For each image, I have uploaded two versions. One with maximum quality and resolution (size around 12MB) and the second one with maximum quality but resolution set to the Tinder resolution 640x800.

The outcome was downloaded from the Tinder web interface using the browser's developer tools (F12)

The first outcome image size is 99.7kB (resolution set to 640x800 in Adobe Photoshop), and the maximum quality image and resolution has a size of 85.2kB.
The second outcome image size is 67.3kB (resolution set to 640x800 in Adobe Photoshop), and the maximum quality image and resolution has a size of 72.4kB.

Result:

Maximum quality and resolution image after Tinder compression is less blurry and sharper.

I hope you see the difference:

https://postimg.cc/gallery/8cQpyCK
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Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:41 pm

I've done some experiments myself, and I found out that uploading PNGs, with the right aspect ratio (4:5) and the highest resolution possible on Android (Can't test iOS) results in the absolute best results.

The web seems to compress the color space, making the pictures look gray and washed out.

If you upload anything on the web, PNG with the correct crop of 640x800 gives the best results.
JPGs and WebMs are always going to result in worse outputs, as Tinder seems to always compress images, no matter what you upload.

This is a zip file with pictures I experimented with
(Yeah, I know it's a terrible pose, the high contrast and detail in the glasses and graffiti really show the compression issues)

https://mega.nz/file/7v4ABBCZ#2ZEsSFmgR ... -EiujjSvV4
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Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:19 am

LostAndFound wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:41 pm
I've done some experiments myself, and I found out that uploading PNGs, with the right aspect ratio (4:5) and the highest resolution possible on Android (Can't test iOS) results in the absolute best results.

The web seems to compress the color space, making the pictures look gray and washed out.

If you upload anything on the web, PNG with the correct crop of 640x800 gives the best results.
JPGs and WebMs are always going to result in worse outputs, as Tinder seems to always compress images, no matter what you upload.

This is a zip file with pictures I experimented with
(Yeah, I know it's a terrible pose, the high contrast and detail in the glasses and graffiti really show the compression issues)

https://mega.nz/file/7v4ABBCZ#2ZEsSFmgR ... -EiujjSvV4
Hey, Thank you for the comparison. I look at the pictures, and yeah, you are right. The best quality can be achieved by uploading a PNG picture in full quality and resolution. Still, the difference between JPG full quality and PNG full quality is minimal from my point of view. The PNG is better, but only a little bit. The pics uploaded from the web interface are atrocious.
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Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:51 pm

I’m going to be the cunt here and say it.

This is absolutely time wasting shit. No girl is going to perceive any of these differences.
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Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:31 pm

I agree with @Adrizzle on this one. This is pure wanking in the end. No girl will swipe left on you just because you uploaded your pictures through the browser and got a bigger quality loss.

That said, thanks for the experiment @LostAndFound. I didn't think there would be a difference between the web and the Android app. I guess it's maybe due to the Android app doing the compression/resizing job on the client side before sending the compressed pics to Tinder's servers? I like this kind of geeky stuff even if it doesn't matter to get girls.

But seriously guys, just focus on shooting better pics! ;)
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Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:35 pm

Adrizzle wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:51 pm
I’m going to be the cunt here and say it.

This is absolutely time wasting shit. No girl is going to perceive any of these differences.
This is nerd stuff, but the quality loss is quite significant when you upload through the browser.
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LostAndFound wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:41 pm
I've done some experiments myself, and I found out that uploading PNGs, with the right aspect ratio (4:5) and the highest resolution possible on Android (Can't test iOS) results in the absolute best results.

The web seems to compress the color space, making the pictures look gray and washed out.

If you upload anything on the web, PNG with the correct crop of 640x800 gives the best results.
JPGs and WebMs are always going to result in worse outputs, as Tinder seems to always compress images, no matter what you upload.

This is a zip file with pictures I experimented with
(Yeah, I know it's a terrible pose, the high contrast and detail in the glasses and graffiti really show the compression issues)

https://mega.nz/file/7v4ABBCZ#2ZEsSFmgR ... -EiujjSvV4
Thanks for doing this. I have an old post on this subject which I've updated and cited you: https://pancakemouse.wordpress.com/2021 ... ur-photos/
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