Ali's Log

Squilliam · Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:27 am

pancakemouse wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 07, 2023 2:26 am
Like one of the prompts, any one of them, and move on. Send a custom message only when there is something EXTREMELY specific you have in common (maybe 1/200).

As many likes as possible.

Three prompts: @Zug has good advice on this <cue Zug!>

I've gotten pretty solid responses with the chess one you told me to use.

"Don't hate me if I spank you at chess"

girls often message me first, sometimes like:
"i've never played chess, you'd probably win"

OR, sometimes they're even like
"You're going to do WHAT to me in chess?"

OR, more rarely:
"I don't know how to play chess so you can just spank me"

I love it. The innuendo is subtle enough to give plausible deniability but it's overt enough that it's not frequently misinterpreted.

I think using a buzzword like "spank" along with a non-sexual topic/hobby tends to work well. But I guess OP's mileage may vary depending on profile/archetype etc.

ProgressEvolution · Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:56 pm

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september · Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:22 am

responding to your MUST live with parents post

what's the frame with your parents like? would you be able to pull straight to your room skipping the living room? you may have leverage if you're being essentially forced to stay with them. don't expect sympathy, just a straighforward negotiation - you're sacrificing your life for this so as a compromise you can bring girls to your room.

alternatively fucking in cars and public bathrooms is an option, and pulling to hers.

I know a few guys in NYC who got all their nightgame lays by pulling to a really nice hotel bathroom.
I know a few guys who lived with their parents and pulled and fucked in cars with a pretty high % of success.
for pulling to hers the best chance is a 2 date model. first date is short, an hour, and you seed shit to do at her place. 2nd date you have at her place. expect to lose a decent amount of girls this way - they often live with their families or have dormmates etc unless theyre older. learn to filter upfront to find out her logistics.

overall its totally doable to get laid outside of your place, and you'll learn useful filtering and logistics management and framing skills. its not entirely a waste. but its still much better if you can just have your own room.

hence I strongly suggest the negotiating with your family option. the gap between pulling to your own entire place, vs pulling to just your own room, is a lot smaller than the gap between pulling to your room, and pulling to hers/a car/a bathroom.

ProgressEvolution · Fri Sep 08, 2023 1:47 am

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september · Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:15 am

It's ok, you can definitely get some great experiences and lays even without your own place. It's not impossible, it's just going to take "more" effort - more frame control, more comfort building. But all of this is worthwhile to get regardless and once you do move out of your parents' in a few years you'll have gotten invaluable skills.

There's a 16 year old kid in Turkey in a certain to-not-be-named individual's whatsapp group who has gotten dozens of lays from pulling to disabled bathrooms - to the point where the chat uses "dbp" as an acronym regularly - "disabled bathroom pull".

YOu say you have a campus nearby - campuses often have empty classrooms and spacious bathrooms. Plenty of them lock from the inside as well. Plus campuses just generally are a nice and pretty place to take a date. It would be good for you to practice the "adventure" frame and escalate on chicks in a closed classroom. This might be your best bet, so I'd start scoping the place out now.

september · Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:16 am

iirc @Rice has done a lot of public sex on campus in ottawa. he might be able to help share details

ProgressEvolution · Fri Sep 08, 2023 1:39 pm

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pancakemouse · Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:08 pm

ProgressEvolution wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 08, 2023 2:57 pm
If my pictures are really above average and I'm average looking in the face, wouldn't I be kind of catfishing and lead to disappointment on the actual date? What have you guys' experiences been with this?

Maybe I'm overthinking this but it's like if I put "Harvard" on a resume and then they found out in was the name of a college in some random island unrelated to America. Probably not the best comparison but you get the idea.

I'm still going to follow all the steps and this doesn't impact my actions at all but it's been lingering on my mind and I'm curious what you guys' experiences have been on this.

Perception is reality.

Pretty much every chick looks better in her photos, so they have nothing to complain about with you.

Photos are an advertisement for a product. Once the product arrives, the buyer should be so excited they forget the advertisement.

That's where Game and vibe come in.