Exactly - it's called the "non return point" and in public you remove the "plausible deniability"
So make outs are only for home, maximum a kiss
Exactly - it's called the "non return point" and in public you remove the "plausible deniability"
Noted. Thanks gentlemen.
I'm asking about the next plans to meet somewhere in the middle of a date, when I feel we are in a good vibe. Then after making out - I re-ask, "so we agreed to see X, right?". Then prior the day I jokingly jump into remind, but not to look needy. Still doesn't work sometimes. Yet I'm not afraid of looking needy. Like last time we agreed to meet on Saturday. She wrote that she changed plans and will call me later the day. No call from her. I did call - no answer. Then I wrote to her "I did something wrong? You can tell me and we can discuss". Then at Monday she replied "everything is okay, I was just too tired". I asked to meet for a walk. She told she is busy, yet she asked to move to Tueseday (good score). Moved. Maked out. In the middle I again asked about nex time, she replied next week. I will wait.Question
In few of the previous weeks I had first dates with girls, asked them to come to my place but it was a no, made out with them at the end of the date, but it never turned into a second date.
I'm curious what I may be able to improve here. Obviously it's going to be hard for you to say exactly what without me going into deep detail about a specific date but some thoughts are:
- Maybe my conversations are too platonic?
- Should I try to set a second date at the end of the first one while she is still there with me?
- Should I spend more time making out/ escalating physically at the end of the date?
Just curious what your guys experiences are.
So i'm going to say for starters, +1 for the avenged sevenfold t shirt.Bman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:10 pmTHIS WEEK'S REFLECTION
Monday: Date; I said no to sex because she had herpes
Thursday: Supposed to have Architect Girl over; ghosted
Friday: Date Cancelled
Apps
Nothing groundbreaking this week on the apps. Staying consistent with my routine with it. Took a set of photos on Wednesday. Would love feedback on which of these six are worth fully editing for the apps. See below.
Dates
Monday's date was fun. Decided to do a walking date down on the boardwalk by the river near my place. She was a fit yoga girl and wore a yoga pants and bra for the date. Had a good conversation and invited her back to my place. I put on some music and we chatted a little bit before she said she couldn't have sex that night. I asked why and she told me she recently got herpes a few months ago. I told her thanks for being honest, and despite the risk being low, I still did not want to risk it since I sleep with other girls. She was really understanding and I walked her down to her car. It's a shame because she had some very plump lips and was a great kisser. I need to start teaching some of these other girls how I like to be kissed because some are not great.
Thursday I was supposed to have Architect Girl over. She was very receptive previously in the week. I texted her Thursday morning and got nothing back all day. I was a little surprised by this one because she texted after the first lay saying she left her Ray Ban sunglasses over at my place and asked if I could hold on to them till Thursday. I jokingly told her I might sell them on Craigslist, but of course I would hold on to them till then. So besides her being really receptive previously, I also thought she would want her sunglasses. I'll text her early next week the "didn't expect you to ghost" line and see if I get a response.
Friday's date cancelled but that's what I expected with this one. Matched on Hinge and she was a solid 9. But she would not give out her number because "there is too many creeps," so I set the date in Hinge. Had to set the date out a few days, so guessing she just got uninterested and unmatched me because when I went to checkin Thursday she was no longer there. No biggie.
Cold Approach
Went out yesterday to the Domain in ATX. Went 0/5 because all of them had boyfriends. But I enjoyed the session. I'm getting much more confident, speaking much slower, and don't have as many nerves. 4 out of the 5 women I did back to back in the span of 10 minutes. One of them I held her hand for a solid 15 seconds while I started the conversation and she told me I had such a deep voice.
Although I'm currently not getting as many dates for CA as I do the apps, it's still a skill I'm enjoying building. I also usually feel pretty good after doing a session of CA. It's nice to get compliments and have little conversations with really attractive women. I will slowly keep working at it as each time I go out I get a little more confident and a little smoother.
Question
Would love feedback on the best of the lot for these six photos. Please keep in mind I have not edited them yet.
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I definitely feel that. I'd like to lock-in a couple FWB's and then focus more on CA.
You can always talk after you fuck.. but you can't always fuck after you talk.
Thanks for the mention my man. As @AskTheDom said though, I will go with "Street Hustle" first and map out the weeks from there. Then once I have a basic model implemented I can do to Daygame Mastery. I'll be documenting it in my log but we can definitely discuss separately how we will map the weeks in case we can find similarities or suggestions that might be worth testing. Get after it!!!
I just downloaded it from the internet. But good to know from your experience it's top of the resources for referencing.
Agreed and recognize. The lays I had previously I pulled in 20 mins or less. I will aim for that in future dates. Might just set an alarm on my phone on vibrate in my pocket to give myself a reminder if I need.Holden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:44 pmYou have a polarizing look and you have a sexualized profile on top of that. You can't afford to not act like a hypersexualized rockstar when you meet girls. It's wildly incongruent. The date at the bar is there to show her you're not a serial killer. Once that is made clear (after 10-15 minutes) you invite them to your place.
Thanks for the reframe and resource. I'll work on that.Holden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:44 pmTry looking at it this way: "I'm a MAN, she's a WOMAN, that's enough." Reframe it like this and embrace the polarity.
There exists a natural attraction between men and women and all you have to do is not fuck it up. In practice that means shutting up and holding eye contact.
Find a PDF of "60 Years of Challenge" it's an old PUA book that helped me out a lot and did the most for me probably. OG stuff.
I agree with @Holden entirely.Bman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:32 pmI just downloaded it from the internet. But good to know from your experience it's top of the resources for referencing.
Agreed and recognize. The lays I had previously I pulled in 20 mins or less. I will aim for that in future dates. Might just set an alarm on my phone on vibrate in my pocket to give myself a reminder if I need.Holden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:44 pmYou have a polarizing look and you have a sexualized profile on top of that. You can't afford to not act like a hypersexualized rockstar when you meet girls. It's wildly incongruent. The date at the bar is there to show her you're not a serial killer. Once that is made clear (after 10-15 minutes) you invite them to your place.
Thanks for the reframe and resource. I'll work on that.Holden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:44 pmTry looking at it this way: "I'm a MAN, she's a WOMAN, that's enough." Reframe it like this and embrace the polarity.
There exists a natural attraction between men and women and all you have to do is not fuck it up. In practice that means shutting up and holding eye contact.
Find a PDF of "60 Years of Challenge" it's an old PUA book that helped me out a lot and did the most for me probably. OG stuff.