Bman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:24 pm
MakingAComeback wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:20 pm
changed dating profile bios (using certain lines to overcome the racist objections I face, I have to play on the fact that my Dad is English, so they don't label me as Indian and just not match at all. Before I did this, I couldn't get ANY leads. NONE. ZERO. Yes, it's that sad. The lays I had on Feeld, were because I changed my name from Ravi, to Rob. YUP)
That is wild. Thanks for sharing that anecdote. It's been hard for me to conceptually grasp your experience because there were so many other confounding variables to be addressed that were holding you back other than race, like game, mindset, weight. But when you isolate it to one variable, race, and can see a clear night and day difference, it's hard to argue.
I'd recommend staying with all black tattoos, with the exception of one or two tattoos that have significant meaning to you that could be done with a bold color (red or blue). When you tattoo dark skin with mild colors, the ink already looks faded and is not a good look. All black tattoos look very clean and make your skin textured, giving it an exotic look. Having one or two bold colored tattoos breaks the viewers gaze when they run their eyes up and down your body. It will draw attention and you will be asked most often about those specific tattoos, which is why I suggest them having a significant meaning to you because it's an opportunity to DHV or create a deeper connection.
Case study:
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I also recommend making the inner forearm ones well done and significantly meaningful. When on a date, my inner forearm tattoos are the ones most looked at and commented on. No surprise, considering the angle we are sitting in and girl's obsessions with forearms. My left forearm tattoo is mermaid/siren with lettering wrapped around her which reads "Captain's Temptations", which gives me the opportunity to bring up man/woman dynamics in conversation.
While they can look good, I'd stay away from only doing pure tribal tattoos. I think it's a waste precious real estate and you could have done something way more interesting. Tattoos are great conversation pieces. Don't waste them on "ehh, it just looks cool".
Thanks for the thoughtful, valuable post!
It has taken many years for me to dissect and get into the core of the problem, and develop the analycitcal ability to discern the deeper psychology, and how to find success within this context.
SMV drives dating success. To bridge deficits, Game is an augmentation agent, that helps to temporarily suspend the dynamics of the selfish gene, as they intersect with social conditioning (perception = reality), but without base SMV, Game leads to quite lacklustre outcomes, unfortunately.
Understanding this deeply, and why women just couldn't accept me or feel attraction for me, was a multi year battle of daily journalling, analysis, breaking sets down, breaking online interactions down, studying dates, etc.
3 years of this shit. Jheeze. To conclude, essentially, my major break point is my ethnicity and overall looks. Yes, this is a very unpalatable thing, but it is nonetheless something to be thought about objectively, constructively, and to get into the deep core of the variables, so they can be tweaked, and optmised.
We know this, from the sheer awful match quality/volume, after so many years, trying different optimisations, etc. I have done so many sets here, ran good game, but when it comes to it, women just pause and there is a very uncomfortable moment, when they just....cant....
A principle I learned the hard way, was that a woman just can't accept a Low SMV dude in her core.
It is ascend or die in this game, but to do that, you need to know the ACTUAL ISSUES.
Issues:
-Brown-Brown: Deeply "ethnic" features, no racial ambiguity, clearly and transparently an Indian person (bottom of world SMV, least desirable, and in their core, no woman actually wants a low SMV male, they accept one, through social conditioning and structural factors such as religion, custom, etc). These people, are also human beings, but in relative terms, suffer poor perception.
What I Did:
-Buzzcut: This allows Brown-Browns to obtain a veneer of Black SMV (black guys have high SMV, like white guys). This style, allows the more "acceptable" attraction triggers to be hit in a woman's brain.
-Masculinity: 3 years of consistent mewwing, have given me a very masculine looking face. I am happy with my results. I worked with Dr Mike Mew himself, and spent a good chunk of change. This, as my BF drops, will come to the fore, and will allow me to tap into "universal masculinity", which still signals to a woman's brain, this is a tough, strong, adaptable man, who will be able to survive.
Issues - "Bad Game", "Bad Vibe"
Technical Game, was something that has helped me to learn. I will keep learning it and get better at it. It's useful - to a point. You will bang a lot of uglies, doing this stuff, but you will get a sex life, and make things happen. Women, will still respond to masculinity. But when the Base SMV, isn't there, SMV blocks haven't been dealt with, and when DLV features (ugly face) are still present as blocking factors, the women you attract, will be among the worst the SMP has to offer. The experiences will leave you hallow. This is a very hierarchal game. At lower levels of the hierarchy, it is a form of Dante's inferno of sorts, it just breaks your heart. Truly. For this reason, Game is useful, but will not really unlock a worthwhile dating life. It'll help you ignite a basic one, though! Enough to gather data and solve the deeper puzzles.
I believe Game is useful, but am not a big advocate of it, all things considered.
Next to ATTRACTIVENESS, Game is some weak ass bullshit. If you're still unattractive, you have to keep working and get over that, no matter what. If you need a new face, start saving. End of.
Very, Very Long Term Thinking:
Of course, it is can be absolutely excruciating to have to work like an absolute savage, for years, and still not come close to finding what you seek. It is a very precarious situation. This, can be painful in excess. That's life. It takes a truly superhuman work ethic, and level of persistence, to go through the multi year journey, whilst not really getting what you seek the whole time. You have to push through it all and never quit.
That is part of being a man.
Critical Thinking & Evaluation
Why does this always happen? Why can't I make this stop?
I had to learn about the perception of race, racial ambiguity, Golden Ratio, facial structure, and things like this. And I came to an initially bitter realisation about how I will need quite a lot of cosmetic surgery, but with the passage of more time, and ongoing disappointment with outcomes (3 years of ghost sex w/ mid ass women) just made me more determined to WIN.
Scotty, told me the truth, and I am grateful about that. Dante also told me the truth. These guys, are properly elite guys, and know their shit.
Using my own brain, I was able to test and figure things out, so the next generation, can just roll with it. Futhermore, we are adults, not victims, and we are setting out to do what we have set out to do. We have personal power, and we are responsible for our own outcomes.
I will keep working on my ideas, and will release them in time:
-Base SMV: We already understand this, and we do advocate guys maxxx themselves out.
-SMV Blocks: Cultural conditioning dependent on geographical location - a particular concern for Low SMV & very niche product people
-Golden Ratio DLVs: Certain bad features and looks, can be a major DLV - they just keep signalling to woman, do not mate with him, do not go with him, he's not a good fit. These, may need to be surgically altered, or one will just remain in the "dead zone" of the SMP. Certain features, can be death, when combined with Low SMV - they say to a woman, if you hate with him, your children will be undesirable, and they will have to suffer a sub-par life. What do you think a girl is going to do? Yup...exactly.
-Archetype: You can tap into this, to look more racially ambiguous and tap into the more attractive archetypes, which are more desirable and can support in generating attraction
I did the work, consistently, for years........The raw reality, is posted in this log.
Remember, I do get laid, I am successful in the Game, I just have to operate very differently from others who do not have to deal with the same SMV Blocks, Golden Ratio DLVs, and of course, lower Base SMV.
My time, may should come. I battle doubt and the normal fears about the prospect to find a good partner. Anyone who is at the bottom f the market, will feel that way, but with savage grinding ability, I create outcomes. The harder you work, the luckier you get, so I may find a decent woman who will treat me well.
I suspect this will be, when I have developed my physique to very high levels (2 years), my game & vibe (these are not that significant in comparison to removing DLV, and finally gotten all my surgeries done and dusted.
The rest of the answers, I will find within.
What really matters, is your outcomes.
If you are not getting the outcomes you seek,
CHANGE.
Rip it all down. Start again. Remove what didn't work. Keep going.
I got so sick of fucking fatties and uggos, I just stopped recording my audios, stopped asking for feedback, and honestly, stopped speaking to my people as much.
I didn't blame them, because I am responsible. But rather, I spent a lot more time just opening up a pen and paper journal, and working through every facet of the break points, sticking points, etc. Developing my own ideas, and going off real world data I have gathered for 3 years.
I then began to slightly improve my outcomes, and the last two I banged were cute.
And as I
STRATEGICALLY RAISE SMV - things will improve further.......
This means, actually tackling the deep core of SMV issues. Lack of racial ambiguity, DLV-inducing features, things like that.
It is possible to overcome Low SMV. You can adapt style and various alterations to the body, that make a woman pause for a moment, and think, wait a minute....I may actually like this guy.....
What really helped, was visualising approaches, and trying to get into the mind of a woman, and imagine her talking to her friends, stuff like that.
Women, generally seek High SMV men, as part of their mating strategy (hypergamy). This is a scale, there is an upper end, and a low end (brown-brown / currycel is the lowest, which is what I am).
Women, deal with a lot of shaming, for dating lower SMV men. They are glared at in the street, their friends shame them ("you can do SO much better, girl"), their family does not approve (brown girls are quite complex, in general, they are quite resentful of brown men for our low SMV, and tend to "settle" for us in older age....gross....), and there is just a whole lot of BS they have to deal with for making this lifestyle choice.
I can't, in my heart of hearts, blame them. And I am also empathetic for them, because the fact of the matter is, they can find what they seek (higher SMV) pretty f**king easily. So I'm OK with it when all things are considered.
A random brain dump, but thanks for your post!
I am going to do more work on tattoo research tomorrow, as part of my ongoing self improvement.
Closing the week now
-Ravi
