What that mean? Not taking advantage of every situation possible?Manganiello wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:32 amI know @KillYourInnerLoser says if you think your city is too small, you haven't grown enough.
But I'm starting to think that might apply for Online and less for cold approaching. Cold Approaching really is governed by the amount of girls you see per minute.
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offwego wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:34 pmWhat that mean? Not taking advantage of every situation possible?Manganiello wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:32 amI know @KillYourInnerLoser says if you think your city is too small, you haven't grown enough.
But I'm starting to think that might apply for Online and less for cold approaching. Cold Approaching really is governed by the amount of girls you see per minute.
Andy has a lot of experience with Online.
With online it's about pictures. Look good, have great pictures. Message a ton of girls.
But wirh cold approach ita different. How you look is less important than how you talk.
... so the reason why small cities or even medium cities can suck with cold approach is because you need to have tons of girls in one area at one point in time to hit high numbers.
Woth online to play the numbers game you just message a lot of girls.
With cold approach you need them to be in one location.
If the city is spread out, everyone drives, there's 8 different malls, nobody goes downtown. You might have a hundreds of thousands of girls to talk to. But they're so spread out you can only talk to a handful at any one point in time.
So if you want to talk to 300 girls in a week. You can do that in a few days with a train station seeing 400,000+ visitors daily.
But 300 in a mall with 3,000 visitors daily will take a massive commitment 7 days a week.
So the size of the city matters A LOT. And the density matters even more.
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Yeah for sure. Getting over my AA in a city of 50,000 is downright painful sometimes, when sometimes there's literally only like 1 really awkward opportunity per hour. I'd be thrilled to be in a city your size. But the fact that it's getting too small for you is a good sign you're getting really advanced!Manganiello wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:43 pm
Andy has a lot of experience with Online.
With online it's about pictures. Look good, have great pictures. Message a ton of girls.
But wirh cold approach ita different. How you look is less important than how you talk.
... so the reason why small cities or even medium cities can suck with cold approach is because you need to have tons of girls in one area at one point in time to hit high numbers.
Woth online to play the numbers game you just message a lot of girls.
With cold approach you need them to be in one location.
If the city is spread out, everyone drives, there's 8 different malls, nobody goes downtown. You might have a hundreds of thousands of girls to talk to. But they're so spread out you can only talk to a handful at any one point in time.
So if you want to talk to 300 girls in a week. You can do that in a few days with a train station seeing 400,000+ visitors daily.
But 300 in a mall with 3,000 visitors daily will take a massive commitment 7 days a week.
So the size of the city matters A LOT. And the density matters even more.
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@SamJ_ Yeah it's painfully obvious. I can do OK. But do anything remotely well I need more density in a city.
Speaking of which Visiting Toronto in 2 weeks.
Speaking of which Visiting Toronto in 2 weeks.
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Nice shit Manganiello you are really commited to this, this is actually insane man good fucking shit. Hope everything workld for the best for you
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@Manganiello is 100% dedicated to approaching. Great things to come from it. Cant wait to see the results of your hard work. It will happen. Guaranteed. Ur just on a rejection tilt off the bat.
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Yeah I mean I've lit so many bridges on fire to do this, I might as well keep going.
Not that I mean it in a bad way. But it's like I've made so many changes to do this. What's one more?
Agreed. The work guarantees the results.
It's probably a good thing. I mean I don't think I would've considered moving as seriously if I got instant gratification.
Just need to get the rejections up.
Establish a better schedule where I can work/sleep/approach
Then organize a bigger play to move to a better city.
This might sound fucked up, but it feels good to be legitimately challenged again.
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That's your alpha mentality. Always striving for betterManganiello wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:51 pmThis might sound fucked up, but it feels good to be legitimately challenged again.
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June 20 update.
Its Father's day in North America.
- Slept a much needed 12+ hours.
- Started clarifying goals.
I'm starting the process of clarifying my goals again.
I got most of my 2021 goals done already. Which is good, but i feel this nagging lack of clarity about what's next.
The best goals I've set usually came from me thinking about them for weeks at a time. And then cementing them during a trip. Which I'm aiming to do that here and now. Good timing too (being the middle of the year).
I've always enjoyed this process.
Thanks man. I think we both got that in us.
Its Father's day in North America.
- Slept a much needed 12+ hours.
- Started clarifying goals.
I'm starting the process of clarifying my goals again.
I got most of my 2021 goals done already. Which is good, but i feel this nagging lack of clarity about what's next.
The best goals I've set usually came from me thinking about them for weeks at a time. And then cementing them during a trip. Which I'm aiming to do that here and now. Good timing too (being the middle of the year).
I've always enjoyed this process.
Toast wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 7:55 pmThat's your alpha mentality. Always striving for betterManganiello wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:51 pmThis might sound fucked up, but it feels good to be legitimately challenged again.
Thanks man. I think we both got that in us.
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June 22 (0/6)
SUMMARY
- Mostly quick unreceptive blowoffs
- Approaxhed for probably an hour altogether.
I approached most of the girls I saw. So the problem was the venues. 100%.
There were a few missed opportunties but honestly I wouldn't have done much better even if I was approaching every girl.
So...
It makes me wonder.
Should I just spend Monday and Tuwaday and work 12 hours on them?
I dont think I've ever hit high volume on those days. So it might be best if I either.
A) Make more money so I can move quicker
B) work more on bad approach days and work less on good approach days.
The more and more I do this. The more flaws I see with the city. At some point I can just say "OK I can approach" and the problem is just the venues available here.
I actually feel pretty good about my effort today. Could've been out longer. But the low volume made it seem pointless.
The approaching does feel good. It's like a really cool habit to have. Almost like going to the gym. But I'm aiming for 50+ approaches per day. I'll never get that here.
SUMMARY
- Mostly quick unreceptive blowoffs
- Approaxhed for probably an hour altogether.
I approached most of the girls I saw. So the problem was the venues. 100%.
There were a few missed opportunties but honestly I wouldn't have done much better even if I was approaching every girl.
So...
It makes me wonder.
Should I just spend Monday and Tuwaday and work 12 hours on them?
I dont think I've ever hit high volume on those days. So it might be best if I either.
A) Make more money so I can move quicker
B) work more on bad approach days and work less on good approach days.
The more and more I do this. The more flaws I see with the city. At some point I can just say "OK I can approach" and the problem is just the venues available here.
I actually feel pretty good about my effort today. Could've been out longer. But the low volume made it seem pointless.
The approaching does feel good. It's like a really cool habit to have. Almost like going to the gym. But I'm aiming for 50+ approaches per day. I'll never get that here.
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Good stuff. Whatever you do, don't stop approaching, even if you're gonna move soon. You're way too good at it to stop and lose progress. Even just a few a day or even one a day is way better than nothing. Also not sure what your goals are but all it takes is one girl who is really into you and you never know, it could be your next approach even though it's statistically unlikely. So to me low volume is not pointless.
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SamJ_ wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:34 amGood stuff. Whatever you do, don't stop approaching, even if you're gonna move soon. You're way too good at it to stop and lose progress. Even just a few a day or even one a day is way better than nothing. Also not sure what your goals are but all it takes is one girl who is really into you and you never know, it could be your next approach even though it's statistically unlikely. So to me low volume is not pointless.
Thanks man.
Being able to do 6 girls in an hour IS low volume. So I will have to adjust.
I'll still approach, but change my schedule up to approach on better days and work more on worse approach days.
I appreciate you're perspective tho. Youre in a city 1/20th the size of mine and making it work.
I was just thinking about that actually. I think you and I might get a long-term advantage because we're forced to approach in harder situations. @JinderS you're in the same boat.
It's definitely a disadvantage now not having a ton of girls to approach, but I think it will flip around 6 or 12 months.
I'm just kind of remembering the 2 things I'm really good at..
Music and sales. Not to brag, more to serve a point. I was one of the best musicians for the instrument I played and a top 0.1% salesperson for the company I was in.
Both of those I started on hard mode. And because it was hard, I tried harder. And overtime it lead to an uncommon skill level which I definitely benefitted from.
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This is very true. @SamJ_ Droppin facts up in here.
Damn, flexing on the musically challenged. Feels badManganiello wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:10 amMusic and sales. Not to brag, more to serve a point. I was one of the best musicians for the instrument I played and a top 0.1% salesperson for the company I was in.
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Lol i can guarantee I started in no better of a place. I was dropped into music in grade 10. And was the one idiot who didn't know how to read music or play anything.