Toast's Japan CA log - Reflecting on 6 Months of living in Japan
- Toast
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Started a Japanese Cold Approach Log to have it all in one place. Easy to look back at how I started my journey if its all in one log and not mixed in with other shit
4/8/2022 - Day 2 in Japan
Went to Ikebukuro had about an hour to kill b4 meeting with a friends girl friend.
Walked around and thought to myself, fuck it i got nothing better to do lets throw myself into approach. Gunna have to do it eventually.
Followed a hot girl for like a block maybe hesitating to approach. Just like when i was a beginner noob. All the familiar feelings of thinking about what to say, etc were filling my mind. Even tho I have approached maybe 1k+ in the past and did the AA program this shit doesnt magically get easy.
Chick walked into a store. Damn missed my first opportunity.
After this im like wow what a bitch.
15 sec later i see another hot chick. This is what Japan is all about!
Catch up to her as she is walking away from me. Has her headphones in and i wave to flag her down.
あなたはかわいい。私はDevin. 今はなにしていますか - You are cute. Im devin. What are you up to?
あーありがと - Ahh thanks
なまえは?- Name?
だいじょぶ - Im good
ひみつ?Secret
はい。ひみつ Yes, Secret -
ひみつは uhh strange なまえ Secret is a uhh strange name
なにしますか - What are you up to
eyelash appointment (using hand jestures)
ああーそです - Ahh i see
あとはなにしますか - After what are u doing
かいもの - SHopping
そおですね - Ahh i see
Line?QR コード?- (Line is a japanese IM) (QR is how u exchange numbers)
pull out my phone and show line.
She pulls hers out and shows qr and we exchange.
pretty standard approach in the grand scheme of things.
But it was a big hurdle to do it in japanese
Very happy with the results.
2nd girl I approached was almost identical with the situation. She was meeting with friends. said she was busy until like 5pm or sumthin.
Messaged both girls recently
Also swiping on tinder (not premium)
Matched 4 chicks. Messaged all of them
no response but its been like 15 min since i messaged so ill see where it goes lol
Good stuff
Update:
Went back to the station with the intention to do a bunch of approached.
Got stonewalled by not being able to speak Japanese, and just nerves
Did like 6 more approaches. and maybe one chick even paid me any attention
the only conversation I had was with a chick who said she was going home. She was giggly and smiling the whole time but didn't want to exchange line. Probably pushed for it maybe 3x.
だいじょぶ。QR を見て
Every other chick either just turned away or didn't even look at me
kinda brutal for getting back into approach but it is what it is.
Idk if saying good evening is a good opener or just waving/peace sign. But i guess it doesn't even really matter when the chick doesn't even acknowledge you lol
End of the day I was 2/10.
Happy with it cuz i retired from approach for like a year. Gotta restrengthen that approach muscle
4/8/2022 - Day 2 in Japan
Went to Ikebukuro had about an hour to kill b4 meeting with a friends girl friend.
Walked around and thought to myself, fuck it i got nothing better to do lets throw myself into approach. Gunna have to do it eventually.
Followed a hot girl for like a block maybe hesitating to approach. Just like when i was a beginner noob. All the familiar feelings of thinking about what to say, etc were filling my mind. Even tho I have approached maybe 1k+ in the past and did the AA program this shit doesnt magically get easy.
Chick walked into a store. Damn missed my first opportunity.
After this im like wow what a bitch.
15 sec later i see another hot chick. This is what Japan is all about!
Catch up to her as she is walking away from me. Has her headphones in and i wave to flag her down.
あなたはかわいい。私はDevin. 今はなにしていますか - You are cute. Im devin. What are you up to?
あーありがと - Ahh thanks
なまえは?- Name?
だいじょぶ - Im good
ひみつ?Secret
はい。ひみつ Yes, Secret -
ひみつは uhh strange なまえ Secret is a uhh strange name
なにしますか - What are you up to
eyelash appointment (using hand jestures)
ああーそです - Ahh i see
あとはなにしますか - After what are u doing
かいもの - SHopping
そおですね - Ahh i see
Line?QR コード?- (Line is a japanese IM) (QR is how u exchange numbers)
pull out my phone and show line.
She pulls hers out and shows qr and we exchange.
pretty standard approach in the grand scheme of things.
But it was a big hurdle to do it in japanese
Very happy with the results.
2nd girl I approached was almost identical with the situation. She was meeting with friends. said she was busy until like 5pm or sumthin.
Messaged both girls recently
Also swiping on tinder (not premium)
Matched 4 chicks. Messaged all of them
no response but its been like 15 min since i messaged so ill see where it goes lol
Good stuff
Update:
Went back to the station with the intention to do a bunch of approached.
Got stonewalled by not being able to speak Japanese, and just nerves
Did like 6 more approaches. and maybe one chick even paid me any attention
the only conversation I had was with a chick who said she was going home. She was giggly and smiling the whole time but didn't want to exchange line. Probably pushed for it maybe 3x.
だいじょぶ。QR を見て
Every other chick either just turned away or didn't even look at me
kinda brutal for getting back into approach but it is what it is.
Idk if saying good evening is a good opener or just waving/peace sign. But i guess it doesn't even really matter when the chick doesn't even acknowledge you lol
End of the day I was 2/10.
Happy with it cuz i retired from approach for like a year. Gotta restrengthen that approach muscle
Last edited by Toast on Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:17 am, edited 28 times in total.
- Toast
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1/10 today in an hour
Went to Ueno Station and approached across the street in the drinking/shopping district
Went a little later then i should have because a lot of the shops were closing
Most approaches were instant defelection
My one conversion was with this super cute chick. Probably 5ft tall, dyed blond hair, frilly skirt and furlined white coat.
Called her cute
She giggled and said thanks
Asked what she was doing
said going home
What will u do when u go home?
(forget what she said)
lets go to a cafe instead
im ok
Ok, lets exchange line
nooo, im ok
its all good, lets exchange
pull out my phone
She thinks about it for a little bit and then pulls hers out and we exchange.
Im having issues approaching more because I'm thinking too much about what i can say in japanese.
I need to give myself permission to fuck up
Make a fool of myself and not understand shit.
Im here to learn japanese and the best way is to just keep talking to people
Stop thinking and just start doing
Plan for tomorrow is to try and hit 20 approaches.
Probably will choose a different location to approach. Or just approach earlier and for longer
Went to Ueno Station and approached across the street in the drinking/shopping district
Went a little later then i should have because a lot of the shops were closing
Most approaches were instant defelection
My one conversion was with this super cute chick. Probably 5ft tall, dyed blond hair, frilly skirt and furlined white coat.
Called her cute
She giggled and said thanks
Asked what she was doing
said going home
What will u do when u go home?
(forget what she said)
lets go to a cafe instead
im ok
Ok, lets exchange line
nooo, im ok
its all good, lets exchange
pull out my phone
She thinks about it for a little bit and then pulls hers out and we exchange.
Im having issues approaching more because I'm thinking too much about what i can say in japanese.
I need to give myself permission to fuck up
Make a fool of myself and not understand shit.
Im here to learn japanese and the best way is to just keep talking to people
Stop thinking and just start doing
Plan for tomorrow is to try and hit 20 approaches.
Probably will choose a different location to approach. Or just approach earlier and for longer
- Squilliam
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Japanese is a hard language. I respect the fact that you're trying to approach in a language you hardly know. Approaching in your mother tongue is hard enough.
Definitely a great way to practice tho
Definitely a great way to practice tho
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- Toast
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Went back to Ueno
Getting a lot more confident approaching in Japanese
Went like 2/15 today in about the same time so its an improvement.
A lot of deflections, but probably more actual conversations today. Maybe 4/15 i was actually talking to the girl. Getting past hey ur cute.
Notable interaction was a really receptive girl.
She's standing outside a 7/11. Super pretty chick. Very thin. Maybe 5'7 with heels.
Walk up to her and call her cute. She starts giggling and says thank you
Ask he what she's up to. She said she has a business meeting later
Ask what kind of business. (forget what she said)
Told her I'm in japan studying Japanese in school
She was like "wow! so cool!"
The whole time she was being very energetic with her responses. Allowing me time to think of the words to day in Japanese.
Asked to exchange line and she agreed no resistance.
Asked if she wanted to go to a café right now, but she had her meeting.
Asked when she was free. She said she was unsure, but that I should text her.
Dont remember the rest of the convo, but it was basically me just trying to say shit and not knowing how. She was saying take ur time.
”日本語上手” - Nihongo Jyozu - Your Japanese is good. Essentially only said to Gaijin(Foreigner) who can barely speak Japanese
Sent her a line and this is how she responded. Probably means nothing, but it was a nice interaction that made me feel good for once
The other 3 contacts I got went nowhere. Blocked them all already lolz
Getting a lot more confident approaching in Japanese
Went like 2/15 today in about the same time so its an improvement.
A lot of deflections, but probably more actual conversations today. Maybe 4/15 i was actually talking to the girl. Getting past hey ur cute.
Notable interaction was a really receptive girl.
She's standing outside a 7/11. Super pretty chick. Very thin. Maybe 5'7 with heels.
Walk up to her and call her cute. She starts giggling and says thank you
Ask he what she's up to. She said she has a business meeting later
Ask what kind of business. (forget what she said)
Told her I'm in japan studying Japanese in school
She was like "wow! so cool!"
The whole time she was being very energetic with her responses. Allowing me time to think of the words to day in Japanese.
Asked to exchange line and she agreed no resistance.
Asked if she wanted to go to a café right now, but she had her meeting.
Asked when she was free. She said she was unsure, but that I should text her.
Dont remember the rest of the convo, but it was basically me just trying to say shit and not knowing how. She was saying take ur time.
”日本語上手” - Nihongo Jyozu - Your Japanese is good. Essentially only said to Gaijin(Foreigner) who can barely speak Japanese
Sent her a line and this is how she responded. Probably means nothing, but it was a nice interaction that made me feel good for once
The other 3 contacts I got went nowhere. Blocked them all already lolz
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- Manganiello
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I'd suspect this translates roughly into
'Wow you're pretty bad, but I like that you're trying.'
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Do you ever ask if they speak english or are you only interested in closing in Japanese?
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- Toast
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Lol Yah u get this even if ur japanese is complete shit. Its like wow ur so good for trying!Manganiello wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 4:01 pmI'd suspect this translates roughly into
'Wow you're pretty bad, but I like that you're trying.'
That's the plan
I generally don't ask to speak English. I'm trying to get better and more confident in speaking Japanese. I only ask if they completely don't understand what i'm saying. Id rather look like an idiot speaking Japanese, then try and speak English lol
- sundleboro
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Great job Toast. They ever look at you and start trying to speak English? I had that "problem" when I was visiting, but you and I look a little different
- Toast
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The ghost of Christmas past posts!sundleboro wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:50 amGreat job Toast. They ever look at you and start trying to speak English? I had that "problem" when I was visiting, but you and I look a little different
I always open in Japanese and try to continue in Japanese, so not really. But one Korean chick who's number I go started speaking in English and I continued cuz it was easier. Generally nah im just trying to speak Japanese, even with how limited it is. Gotta try to use it to get better
An interesting perspective on girls who wont speak English that I learned today is that those girls who only speak Japanese and have no interest in learning English are the ones who are treated like queens out here. The ones who are interested in America are possibly unhappy with the way things in Japan are. So those who try to speak English to the Japanese girls are already not interesting to them. Cuz why should they speak or learn English if they already have everything they want in Japan with Japanese. Interesting viewpoint
- Squilliam
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I think many people in Japan do not speak good English. At least that was my experience while there
Life begins at the end of your comfort zone.
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- Do 1000 approaches by end of 2024 (~444/1000)
- Get laid from daygame
- Learn game and stop being a social autist
check out my blog: https://squilzpursuit.wordpress.com/
- Do 1000 approaches by end of 2024 (~444/1000)
- Get laid from daygame
- Learn game and stop being a social autist
- Toast
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Definitely depends where ur at. In tokyo some do, In the sticks, literally nobody does. They may have not even seen a foreigner b4 lol. Or so ive been told
- Toast
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2/15ish today. Slowly increasing my volume.
Nothing special to not about the approaches. Just putting in the milage
Exchanged with a Korean chick and a super cute Japanese chick
Met up with some of the other Japanese approach guys in Shibuya. If you know Japan its where the scramble crossing is that gets like 1000 people crossing like pre pandemic. Today id estimate maybe 500 at a time or so. So that speaks to the volume in that area.
Someone from a different chat invited me to a chat on Line with like 150 members all based in Japan.
The guy who i met today is like 50yo and had a lot of interesting things to say about approaching in Japan. We discussed Voldemort's style and the new groups style.
Then we met up with some of the other members in the group. One guy who we met would be talking to us then peel off to approach and wouldn't be seen for a bit.
At maybe 10pm we met with the "leader" of the new group. I quote leader cuz he's not in charge of anything but he probably has the most experience. He was super informative and gave me some solid advice on approach and backed it up with his own experience. HE started in Japan like 6 years ago with 0 Japanese. His advice for someone like me is to just keep approaching. He related it to hiring a trainer at the gym. They can teach u a bunch of useful stuff but at the end of the day u still need to go out and lift weights. And even if u don't have a trainer, picking up weights is better then reading a bunch of stuff on working out and doing nothing.
Also its interesting cuz the pickup culture is huge in Japan. Besides the 4 dudes I met today. I saw like 5 or so Japanese people approaching chicks as well in the same area. Cool stuff
Nothing special to not about the approaches. Just putting in the milage
Exchanged with a Korean chick and a super cute Japanese chick
Met up with some of the other Japanese approach guys in Shibuya. If you know Japan its where the scramble crossing is that gets like 1000 people crossing like pre pandemic. Today id estimate maybe 500 at a time or so. So that speaks to the volume in that area.
Someone from a different chat invited me to a chat on Line with like 150 members all based in Japan.
The guy who i met today is like 50yo and had a lot of interesting things to say about approaching in Japan. We discussed Voldemort's style and the new groups style.
Then we met up with some of the other members in the group. One guy who we met would be talking to us then peel off to approach and wouldn't be seen for a bit.
At maybe 10pm we met with the "leader" of the new group. I quote leader cuz he's not in charge of anything but he probably has the most experience. He was super informative and gave me some solid advice on approach and backed it up with his own experience. HE started in Japan like 6 years ago with 0 Japanese. His advice for someone like me is to just keep approaching. He related it to hiring a trainer at the gym. They can teach u a bunch of useful stuff but at the end of the day u still need to go out and lift weights. And even if u don't have a trainer, picking up weights is better then reading a bunch of stuff on working out and doing nothing.
Also its interesting cuz the pickup culture is huge in Japan. Besides the 4 dudes I met today. I saw like 5 or so Japanese people approaching chicks as well in the same area. Cool stuff
- Manganiello
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Awesome
That KK?
I remember thinking after 35 your time to game is limited, but this 45 y.o. guy in the Facebook group is regularly banging cute/hot 20 year olds.
Wow that makes a lot of sense.Toast wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:09 pmJapan like 6 years ago with 0 Japanese. His advice for someone like me is to just keep approaching. He related it to hiring a trainer at the gym. They can teach u a bunch of useful stuff but at the end of the day u still need to go out and lift weights. And even if u don't have a trainer, picking up weights is better then reading a bunch of stuff on working out and doing nothing.
6 years of nampa is pretty legit tho.
- Toast
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Yah its KK. He has a wife and kids but he said his wife cheated on him first lol.
Yah he is really fine tuning his approach. Super intelligent guy. Also puts in the milage to get his style of approach to work